MAN you guys get distracted by your own baggage attached to words! Certain words to you are just like red flags to a bull, regardless of what they mean in the context. (It reminds me of my 10-year-old son, who cannot abide the number 55.) OK, instead of saying "part of the Christian tradition", how about we say "part of the Christian community"? But we have already heard the answer, I think. The entire RCC is outside the fold, and any sheep who don't get out of there will find themselves on the way up the ramp to the abattoir. I get it. 
 
Debbie
  
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Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] All believers are ONE IN CHRIST

Exactly!  This is why we can never discuss the important things and why there is no appetite for God's Word
Not any that is apparent to me anyway.  jt.
 
On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:31:48 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Lance, who cares about tradition???  Iz

 

Mark 7:5Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?

   6He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

   7Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

   8For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

   9And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

   10For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:

   11But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.

   12And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;

   13Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

 

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] All believers are ONE IN CHRIST

 

I'm genuinely confused here, Terry. Do I understand you, Judy, Kevin and David Miller to be saying that the RCC is NOT part (a large part) of the Christian Tradition?

 

IMO, if you are then, you are all wrong. I'd go further and, say that you are all wrong in eyes of God. The Spirit of God, IMO, is very much at work in the RCC. 

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Sent: July 06, 2005 13:34

Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] All believers are ONE IN CHRIST

 

Lance Muir wrote:

Up to now we have two who offer a resounding NO. I've not heard from Judy on this as yet.

 

So then, what is being said is something like the following: "Even if the Lord Himself has embraced someone, should that someone be engaged is worshipping Him within a tradition (RCC & one might insert other 'unacceptable' traditions alongside this one) I (insert your name at this juncture - Terry, Kevin) will not accept them as a sister/brother thus, ONE IN CHRIST with myself."  

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The only one I see saying the above is you, Lance.  Idolatry is not a tradition.

 

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