Re: [TruthTalk] Mary/Scripture/transubstantiation/interpretation

[Judy Taylor]

On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 06:39:21 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Please clarify for me the following: 1. Israelite believers who came to 'not believe'   They were God's Covenant ppl who came out of Egypt with Moses Lance, the ones born under the Law, just like Jesus was.   Christian believers who came to 'not believe'.   There are a lot of examples in scripture - unless you are a Calvinist, in which case you will need to explain them away because these scriptures will conflict with your doctrine.   Hymanaeus & Alexander who made a shipwreck out of their faith; (note they had it to start with) Hymanaeus and Philetus (2 Tim 2:17) The man who was disfellowshipped because of fornication if he did not repent (1 Cor 5:3) are just a few - I'll leave it to David to expand because he does it so much better than me...   Expand a  bit, please. Are you saying that Jude is saying that there is a one for  one parallel between the two? What does Scripture teach concerning their  eternal destiny?   As for salvation - there is only one way and just one standard; the Old Covenant folk come the same way we do with the fearful, unbelieving, sorcerers, and everyone who loves and makes lies standing outside the gate.   jt     > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> > Sent: July 09, 2005 21:41 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] > Mary/Scripture/transubstantiation/interpretation > > > > Lance wrote: > > > I understood Gary to be referring to believers. > > > If that was incorrect then, I apologize. If he was > > > and you agreed with him then, you would've been > > > disagreeing with yourself. Which was it? > > > > Did you read the passage that I quoted? > > > > Jude 1:5 > > (5) I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew > this, how > > that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, > afterward > > destroyed them that believed not. > > > > Jude is talking about those who were once saved, but were > afterward > > destroyed when they believed not.  This highlights exactly what > kind of > > Christians continue in sin.  They are like those Israelites who > were > > delivered from slavery in Egypt, only to perish in the desert > because they > > believed not. > > > > Peace be with you. > > David Miller. > > > > ---------- > > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that > you may > know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email > to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed.  If you > have a > friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > > --- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you > may know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed.  If you > have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > >