I usually try to give anyone the benefit of a doubt or assume the best of them, Christian or not, unless I have reason not to. So are you implying that BT doesn't think Terry is a Christian? iz
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 9:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting the Scriptures for li Izzy, If you believe one is not a Christian, then you are not compelled to take him at his word, a la 1 Cor 13, right? Perry >From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting the >Scriptures for li >Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:57:01 -0500 > >Certainly. > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke >Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:45 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting the >Scriptures for li > >Izzy, > > Can you be wrong in your discernment about who is a Christian and who >is >not, perhaps believing one who is indeed a Chrisian to not be so? > >Perry > > >From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: <[email protected]> > >Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting the > >Scriptures for li > >Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:48:09 -0500 > > > >I don't know of any reason to believe that Terry is not a follower of > >Christ. Some folks claim to follow Christ but their fruit shows >otherwise, > >in which case Jesus said to judge by the fruit, not by the talk. Some >folks > >on TT state they don't know what it means to be born again, some claim to > >be > >followers of JSmith, etc. I choose to believe a person's statement about > >him/herself unless they prove themselves to be speaking falsely--whether > >that is intentional or not. How about you, Perry? Do you believe the > >mormons, for instance, when they claim to be true followers of Jesus > >Christ? > >I don't because I know they can't follow JSmith and Jesus at the same >time. > >izzy > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry >Locke > >Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:49 AM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting the > >Scriptures for li > > > >Izzy, how do you know who is a believer to decide if you should take him >at > >his word? Some on this group say they are believers but you do not >believe > >that they are. If they are believers, regardless of whether you think >they > >are believers or not, aren't you breaking 1 Cor 13 if you do not take >them > >at their word? > > > >Perry > > > > >From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [email protected] > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting the > > >Scriptures for living (not for 'A' living) > > >Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:21:03 -0500 > > > > > >I do believe that I Cor 13 exhorts us to take a Believer at his word, > >does > > >it not? How else would love behave? iz > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Taylor > > >Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:55 AM > > >To: [email protected] > > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting the > > >Scriptures for living (not for 'A' living) > > > > > >David wrote concerning Terry's comment: I found nothing dishonest in >what > > >you wrote. ... There was definitely a problem in reading you. > > > > > >David, how do you presume to know this, other than in the say way the > >rest > > >of us might? Terry's word will have to suffice, as far as I'm >concerned. > > >Are > > >you privy to something we're not? > > > > > >Bill > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:37 AM > > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting the > > >Scriptures for living (not for 'A' living) > > > > > > > > > > Terry wrote: > > > > > I make a simple statement that there is not enough > > > > > information to tell who would be the the most accurate > > > > > interpreter of scriptures or the most mature believer > > > > > between Bill, who I have never met, and a Russian, > > > > > who I have never heard of. That is hardly placing one > > > > > of you in Hell and the other outside the body of the > > > > > Church. If that comment is less than honest, explain > > > > > to me where I would have gotten the information needed > > > > > to reach the same conclusion as Lance. > > > > > > > > I found nothing dishonest in what you wrote, Terry. I was amazed >that > > >your > > > > post was interpreted the way it was. There was definitely a problem > >in > > > > reading you. > > > > > > > > You mention something in this post that is somewhat interesting. >You > > > > mention both "accurate interpreter of scriptures" and "most mature > > > > believer." Do you think these are related? Are more mature >believers > > >more > > > > accurate interpreters of Scripture? My comments on this thread > > >concerned > > > > only the ability to understand the intent of the Holy Ghost in the > > >Scripture > > > > he inspired to be written. Perhaps part of the disconnect in > > >communicating > > > > on this is that some connect the idea of "accuracy interpreter of > > > > scriptures" and "maturity of believers" in a more definite way. >That > > >was > > > > perhaps part of Lance's perspective, that one cannot accurately > > >interpret > > > > Scripture without having time for maturity, regardless of the > > >involvement > > >of > > > > the Holy Spirit. > > > > > > > > What do you think? Is the maturity of the believer something > >important > > >in > > > > regards to the ability to understand the intended meaning of > >Scripture? > > >Is > > > > maturity a requirement before one can understand the Holy Spirit's > > >intent > > >in > > > > Scripture? > > > > > > > > Peace be with you. > > > > David Miller. > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you > >may > > >know how you ought to answer every man." 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