Judy wrote:
> It is scripture Bill. When I compare your words
> with what is written I encounter huge problems.

I would like to compare some of Bill's words with Scripture.  I think he is 
right concerning Christ's humanity.  If you think there is some problem with 
his words when compared to Scripture, please start by posting what Scripture 
creates the problem in your mind.

Bill had already mentioned one passage, and you had posted an objection.

Romans 8:3
(3) For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, 
God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, 
condemned sin in the flesh:

You object to this passage based upon the word "likeness," saying that 
likeness does not mean the same.  However, the word "likeness" can mean more 
"like" than what you are perhaps giving credit.  Romans 6:5 speaks of us 
being planted together in the likeness of his death, therefore, we shall be 
also in the likeness of his resurrection.  Are you going to argue that we 
will not be resurrected like Christ, but that his resurrection will be 
something different from ours?  I hope not.

In like manner, Phil. 2:7 speaks of Jesus being made in the likeness of men. 
Does this mean that Jesus was not really a man, but that he only looked like 
a man?  I hope you would not argue that!

Now consider the very context of this passage.  It is speaking to the issue 
of how Christ condemned sin in the flesh.  We might ask, how?  Well, part of 
Paul's point here is that he came in the likeness of sinful flesh.  In other 
words, there is something about Christ becoming a man that enabled him to 
conquer sin in the flesh.  The salient point here is that his flesh had to 
be like ours, warts and all, meaning, sin nature residing within it and all 
that.  This does not mean that Jesus was a sinner.  It means that his flesh 
tempted him in the same way that our flesh would tempt us.

To this agrees yet another passage of Scripture:

Hebrews 4:15
(15) For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling 
of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet 
without sin.

Compare this with the teaching of James that the source of all temptation is 
the flesh:

James 1:13-15
(13) Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot 
be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
(14) But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and 
enticed.
(15) Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it 
is finished, bringeth forth death.

It seems rather clear that the flesh of Jesus was not sinless as the Roman 
Catholics and Augustine teach, but rather his flesh was just like the flesh 
of the rest of mankind.  His victory in the weakness of this flesh is very 
important for us, for our hope of salvation from sin, and for our hope of 
the resurrection.

Peace be with you.
David Miller. 

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