RE: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:20:29 -0700

Who on TT has ever “compelled” anyone to do anything—as far as I can tell everyone still does his own thing. Heeding truth has never been compelling to most on TT.  iz

 

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for humans biblical salvation is purely voluntary, like the Alamo--you wanna defend the KoG in history with JC, cross his line in the sand

 

this is obedience to him--salvation (via 'a crucifixion') you volunteer for is just that, voluntary

 

who, then, as a volunteer, has any right to compel the involuntary religious obedience of another?

 

while the G-m's (God-manipulators) among us do exactly that requiring y/our compliance by a certain force, ask 'compliance? to whom?'

 

i'd say these G-m types never volunteered for nothin' worth volunteerin' for and that's their real problem; FTR, neither God's nor mine

 

 

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:32:32 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 

To argue that salvation is free but after the initial event, we must obey to maintain this salvation is wrong on several levels:

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6.    [re: pronouncing] 'that what God could not do for man, man must do for himself !!'

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