DAVEH: I'm curious to know what Protestants believe God wanted to have
happen. IF God intended for A&E not to sin, then wouldn't Protestants
think that some of their children would be sinners, and some would not
be sinners?
Why would it be a waste of time to consider what God intended,
Perry? Isn't that the nature of theology....to learn what God wants to
have happen?
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Adam and Eve sinned. That is what Christians believe. Why conjecture
about things they don't believe to find out what they believe? I think
it is a waste of time.
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Humanity of Jesus
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 22:42:42 -0700
DAVEH: I'm trying to look at it from a Protestant's perspective,
Perry. I assume you believe that God did not want or intend for A&E
to transgress. If so, then I am curious about what you think the
world would have been like being populated by some who sin, and some
who don't. I also assume that Protestants believe we all have
inherited a sinful nature because of the fall of A&E, and none are
capable of being sin free. So, if A&E had not sinned, do you think
there would be any perfect people in the world today?
BTW......If you feel it a waste of time to conjecture about this,
don't feel compelled to respond.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
What is the purpose of this conjecture? Adam and Eve fell, so it is
a pure waste of time to conjecture otherwise.
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Humanity of Jesus
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 08:31:18 -0700
DAVEH: No. But I think you must have missed the beginning of my
questions to Terry. I started with the premise of what would have
happened IF A&E had not transgressed in the first place. I assume
you believe there would have been people who had sinned as well as
those who had not sinned. My curiosity is about what you folks
think would have been the pertinence of Jesus coming to the earth
to those who had not sinned.
Judy Taylor wrote:
*jt: Dave do you know of anyone other than the Lord Jesus Christ
Himself - who never sinned? judyt*
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:28:07 -0700 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> writes:
*Jesus loved me enough to die for me. God's love does not appear
to be based on numbers.*
DAVEH: I fully agree. However, I was trying to explore a bit
further what you believe about how Jesus' sacrifice is pertinent
to anybody who had never sinned.
Terry Clifton wrote:
Boy! I hate it when people force me to think on my time
off. It's hard enough to do it on the job.
There are those who do not sin and still die. They are called
fetuses by those who murder them, unborn children by those who
would rather they live. There is no way that they can sin in
thought or deed, yet they die, so sin brought death to all.
I believe that had I been the only sinner on earth, *Jesus loved
me enough to die for me. God's love does not appear to be based
on numbers.* One fact, one opinion. You would have very little
trouble arguing against the opinion. The fact is self evident.
Dave wrote:
DAVEH: Assuming that some would not have sinned....would all
who did not sin live forever, and those who did sin would
die? And...what effect would Jesus' sacrifice be to those
who did not
sin? IOW....would Jesus have given his life for the sinners
only, and the others would not have need of anything from
Jesus?
Terry Clifton wrote:
Dave wrote:
DAVEH: I'm curious. What do you folks believe would have
happened if A&E had not fallen? Would their children have
been perfect, or could some have sinned while others remained
without sin? And what effect would that have had on the
world?
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Since we all have free will to obey or disobey, any human from
Adam on could choose to sin. As slick as the devil is and as
stupid as people are, I think it;s safe to assume that all
would have sinned. The world today would not be much
different.
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