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Lance, I agree God is gracious but not beyond
comprehension. He has given us His Word which He will not
violate. I get it. I choose not to be taken in by
it. because yours is "another gospel" with a "different
spirit"
When I speak of you 'sleeping' Judy, I refer to
your not getting it. When I speak of the sign and the sandwich board, I refer
to the non-biblical, anti-christ (non christological) gospel that you preach.
When asked for 'whom the bells tolls Judy, it tolls for
thee'
Thankfully, God is gracious beyond
comprehension (mine but apparently not yours)
Awake, thou that sleepest!! Translation: Stop
fiddling whilst Rome (America) is burning!! Western civilization is
imploding.
Wrong premise ... One does not sleep Lance
just because they do not continually lament the sad state of a world
without Christ.
You continue to spout this fundy biblicist
philosophy. It most assuredly is not the 'ALL truth' that you have
referenced over the years.
What "fundy philosophy" Lance? I adhere to
neither.. but then what does it matter what I say - What you think is much
more
important when elevated opinions are where
it is at.
Rant on if you wish, Judy. It's like the gal
in the endzone with his Jn 3:16 sign or, a gal with a sandwich board
reading 'Repent,
for the end is at hand'.
Isn't this what you have just stated above
Lance? Rebuking me for sleeping while America burns and Western
civiliation implodes
(why are you leaving out 3rd world
countries?) while I should weep with Canadians and other
liberals?
This 'stuff' is OK for the choir in your
church but, for the gal on the street it's a joke. (They would be correct
to find it amusing)'
I came from the street Lance; I didn't
hatch here at this keyboard. Let me tell you ppl who are "in Christ"
KNOW Him and His
sheep hear HIS
voice. Better make sure you are not counted with the
goats....
Why?
We have the same Word he used to
defeat the adversary and that He followed. We have also been given
the
same Spirit to empower and help us and lead us
into ALL truth or don't you believe what
is written Lance? jt
If all that Jesus did was to 'leave us an
example' then we're 'cooked'.
From what I recall you read this into some
passage in the book of Revelation JD. However if you got
someone
trained in statistics to compare the number
of those at the end to all who have ever lived what would
this percentage
look like? The walk of faith is not a list of Gk words and/or
doctrines JD so these are a moot point. We must overcome
where A&E failed. Jesus did it while in the flesh and He left us
an example - His are the steps we are to follow. It is
working out your own salvation with fear
and trembling rather than a
religious good 'ol boy network who all subscribe
to the same self serving 'big
picture' - and that's my monologue for today.
jt
Again , you make comment that has little to do with what I
have written. At least you are consistent.
You really like the sound of the "narrow road" thingy, don'e
you? I prefer the part that says there are so many,
they cannot be counted.
JD
From: Judy Taylor < jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
So?
We may be at different places in our
pilgrimage but are basically travelling the same road which is the
narrow path with he strait gate.
Whereas others on TT appear to
be breathing rarified air and
on the
broad road ... jt
I have a definition and fully understand what "judgmentalism" is. Nothing
double tongued about it. Give me your definition and I'll
share mine. The clear reason why you Wingers
refuse to present a list of doctrines upon
which we must all agree has to do with the impossibility of
the matter -- your list, Deegan's
list, Judy's list or DM's list would
not be the same !!! So you all pretend to agree with
each other while refusing, at the same time, to offer specifics
as to this mythological list. You judge others to
hell but refuse to be
accountable. &n bsp; Ditto on this definition for
judgmentalism.
You all cannot give a definition that does not find yourselves
at fault.
But I already knew this.
JD -----Original
Message----- From: ShieldsFamily
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
[email protected]Sent: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:56:19 -0500 Subject: RE: Re:
[TruthTalk] an argument from the gay community for homosecuality
How can you be so double-tongued, JD? You accuse me of
that all the time!!! iz
I believe it is spelled "judgmentalism," Bub, and why bring
up the word anyway - no one on the right has a clue
as to its definition. Hard to accuse someone of it when you
don't know what it is.
JD -----Original
Message----- From: Kevin Deegan < openairmission@yahoo.com> To:
[email protected]Sent: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] an argument from the gay community for homosexuality
And your Judgemental too!
Is your Brand of HATE speech and JUDGEMENTALISM
allowed in the People's Republique of CANUCKastan?
Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin: Y'all confuse HONESTY with HATEFULNESS. Y'all don't SPEAK,
Kevin, y'all
SPEW! JD has
recognized this 'bout y'all since I bin on TT.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: September 29,
2005 15:51
Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] an argument from the gay community for homosecuality
Stop being so HATEfull
Lance. Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
He did indeed 'hit sin on the
head', Judy. Mostly however, he hit it on the head with
those
in the 'churches' of His day. That ring any bells with any
of you out there? (Judy, Kevin, Iz) At whom/with whom do we see
His anger most expressed? At whom/with whom do we see the
opposite? Why look, it's the very ones y'all
choose to hate, demonstrate against etc.
Hmmmmmmmmmm strange hugh? Do we
all read the sa me Bible?
----- Original Message
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Sent: September 29,
2005 07:52
Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] an argument from the gay community for homosecuality
Why arn't you talking about the
"gay issue?" We are supposed to minister the way
Jesus did as He is our example
and He always hit sin head on ie He confronted the rich
young ruler with his heart of covetousness which he was
not
yet willing to part with. Jesus didn't
chase after him and keep talking
about grace. He did minister to those God showed
Him and warned them to go and sin no more lest
a worse thing come upon
them. But He didn't minister to everyone he
met.
Today we take sin so lightly because we don't believe God means
what He says or that the chaos in our lives is rooted
in sin and unrighteousness. God is supposed to bless this mess
because of grace, because he loves us so much and
this
is the lie. He will not do it
because to do so He would have to
violate His own Word. You can talk grace till the
cows
come home but until this person hears the
truth and is willing to repent from the heart God
will not honor your words JD.
Well,
maybe God has put us together "for such a time as
this." Right now
the
relationship is
something of a novelty -- at
least for him. My conversation with him
is different from "the others." So,
maybe I might be able to make sense to
him. What I am not doing is
talking about the gay issue, per se. He is but I am
trying to get him to stop and examine what it
means when it says that "Christ died for us while we
were YET sinners." My concern is
that he understand the gospel of grace and ,
and, and, what it really mean s to be
"saved." The new birth will
produce - given time
............... so that is where I begin
-----------&n bsp; with the new birth.
JD ====================================
I wish you well.
Terry
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