Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

[Judy Taylor]

 

 

On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 08:59:51 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

How does your definition of "judging" fit in with I Co 5:12 where it is clear that we "judge"  those within the church?

 

Paul is saying in the above passage that we should refuse to eat with someone calling themselves a brother who is a fornicator, covetous, an idolater, a reviler, drunkard, or extortioner" which are not what you point out below JD. Overt sin needs to be dealt with in the Church because God will refuse to honor us with His presence when we refuse to honor His holiness. 

 

Bill's post of yesterday will be my response to the details of "coninuing to fall short of his glory."  

You misunderstand what it is that keeps humbled as faithful servants.   JD

 

 

From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>

And one of yours JD is judging - the same way Job's comforters judged (which is jumping to a conclusion

after the flesh while ignorant of the rest of the story).  It made God angry then - Why is there no fear of God now??

Also you contradict your own theology since you are one of the "incarnational" crowd.  How is it possible to be

so steeped in the mire while ATST in Christ?  Consciously continuing in known sin is trampling the blood of the

everlasting covenant underfoot.  Jesus is not a cover for sin.

 

On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 02:45:14 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Your sins, Judy,  have a display here on TT.   We all have the experience.   Yours  is stubbornness,  DM's is arrogance.   Shields is a refusal to admit wrong doing.   Mine is obstinance (perhaps).  Lance's has something to do with living in Canada.   Gary's , well,  I can't think of anything just yet,  but I will give it continued thought. 

 

I believe in the power to become a son of God.   I was made one fully and completely on the cross and benefitted from it the moment I turned to Him for the issues of life (repentance). 

 

I am not complacent about my sin, but you are.   It is complacency that denies the existence of sin when sin is present. 

 

Thank goodness we don't have to be right to be saved !!!

 

 

JD   

 

From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>

Speak for yourself ONLY JD.  The power to become a son of God has been sent already.

Whether or not you choose to walk in it rather than believe tradition along with doctrines that

exempt you and cause you to be complacent in your sin is between yourself and your own

conscience. 

 

Jesus left us an example that we should follow in His steps (1 Peter 2:21)

 

And this same Jesus also stated "the works I do shall you do also and greater" (John 14:12) 

 

The impotent person still bogged down in trespasses and sin who only has great swelling

words of man's wisdom to hold on to will find this impossible because of their unbelief. 

However Jesus ever the obedient Son only said what He first heard the Father say - so

this is straight from headquarters.  Accept or reject, take it or leave it....

 

 

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 18:33:27 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The correct way of saying it is this:  nobody has the power to walk as Christ walked.   

 

"Works of the law" is "obedience to the law."   There is no other way, exegetically speaking, to consider those words.  

 

Jd

 

 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 09:36:27 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

JD wrote:
> David does not believe that sin is overcome by
> the power of the cross.   He believes that sin is
> overcome by obedience.

Please stop bearing false witness against me.  Nobody has the power to walk 
as Christ walked without the cross.

You confuse obedience with works.  They are not the same.  My obedience is 
not a work.  My obedience comes out of my relationship with someone I love.

Peace be with you.
David Miller. 

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