[TruthTalk] Antinomianism Refuted

[Judy Taylor]

Fellows, this discussion should be titled Calvin and Calvin and is one more demonstration of how mankind refuses to accept the Word of God as well as the God of the Word, so that each time a contradiction becomes apparent there arises a new rationalization to explain it away.  It is uncanny.   There is for sure nothing new under the sun. Same ol' fallen Adamic flesh nature that refused to take responsibility for his choice and action back then in that garden in Mesopotamia continues to refuse to take responsibility now.    Back then it was "the woman you gave me"  Today we hold to doctrines that do not conform us to godliness and holiness and so we claim it is "God's decree" for some to be saved and others lost because He ordained for some to be elect (in eis) and for others to be damned.  So these doctrines have this God of love who is full of mercy and lovingkindness now violating His Own Word because these doctrines make Him a respecter of persons.    Bottom line is that if one is "elect" they have it "made in the shade" (and naturally all who authored these doctrines were part of the elect) because it is all done for them and they lack nothing. The rest are decreed to be headed for hell no matter what because of what God has ordained for them.  These are the grounds upon which you two agree.  Sad, sad, sad, shame, shame, shame.     andrew writes: The idea that the written code has less authority on NT believers than OT believers would mean that God's demand for holiness has changed (and thus, God has changed.)     john: Only that the administration of His will has changed  --  at least in terms of emphasis.       Andrew: But He is the same, yesterday, today and forever.     john: Such a statement does not challenge the fact that His administration has many differing expressions.        Andrew: And He gives some the perfect righteousness of Christ, whilst His wrath abides on the rest.      john: Election is in (eis) Christ and has no predetermination outside that relationship.      Andrew: The first group have no condemnation in Christ Jesus --and have full assurance that they have the imputed righteousness. The others have been reprobated based on God's will, and will be go to hell. But all must obey the written code.