So now I have to provide proof whenever you come up with another of your baseless statements?
Your assertion contained no supporting data, why not?
 
Where did you learn the Bible "contains" the truth?
Thy word IS Truth JN 17:17
 
It is not a "message"
It does not contain truth
it is the very word of God

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Kevin, kevin, kevin   ---------------   you have offered nothing for proof.   Who among us argues what is written in 17:17.   The biblcial message does present at least three sources of information.   If you need  a proof text for that ,   well,  you're just not reading the book. 
 
JD 
 
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From: Kevin Deegan <openairmission@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 04:33:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will never be uniformily apprehended!!!

Since the "scholars contains truth" crowd won't provide proof tetxts, here they are:
JN 17 :17 thy word is ((contains)) Truth
Hi Iz,
 
I presume that when you wrote the following (that about which Judy responds, "what Izzy says stands ..."), you were asking a rhetorical question -- the answer being, Of course not: "Can you separate God and His ... written Word?" I would like to challenge you to reconsider. If there is no difference, i.e., no separation, between God and his written word, then go ahead and pray to your Bible, for they are one in the same. You (not you personally, but your cohorts) criticized John for suggesting that the Bible contains the Word of God, demanding proof texts; yet you yourself write that it is "the Truth contained within" the Bible which is holy, and that Jesus' word speaks to you from those pages, if you have ears to hear. Would you mind explaining to me how this is different from that which set you (pl) off concerning John's statement?
 
Christians know better than to think it's okay to pray to their Bibles, yet with their own words, they sometimes exalt the Bible to a status due only to God. The two are not the same: that is what Lance is saying, and that is what John is saying, and, if I correctly apprehend your latest comment, that is what you are saying -- Judy's kudos noted. I think we all agree. Praise the Lord!
 
Bill 

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