Actually, you didn't answer the question. The gentile in Romans 2 IS NOT a regenerated individual. How do we know this? This is a person who has never heard the preaching of the law of God ( Paul contrasts hearing with doing in this context) AND his salvation is tenuous , at best, because it is based solely upon his ability to "naturally" obey the law apart from any spirit influence or knowledge of the law. And , as often as not, he fails in this doing , by the way. If the phrase "by nature" means to include the indwelling of the Spirit, then the Jew in this passage DOES NOT HAVE THE SPIRIT, for he is clearly NOT doing the law "by nature." Your theology of Ro 2 has the Jew , in this passage lost and without the Spirit. But, of course, you do not believe that a
nd so away you go.
And your out of context I Co 2:14 is really getting old. So unregenerated man cannot receive the things of God unless he is given the Holy Spirit of God -- right? There are those who have the Spirit and are thereby regenerated and those who do not and are unregenerated. And the unregenerated cannot receive the things of God - nothing from God for all that God lays on us is spiritual -- right???? And this would include the Corinthians -- right?? I mean , the text says ".....and even now, you are still not able" (I Co 3:2). So, why is he writing to them if they are not able to understand what he is saying? And how did they come to a knowledge of the truth in the first place ????? And on what occasion do you KNOW that you are right and cannot be wrong, Jud
y? How many times have you read the text, layed it down and said to yourself," I have no need to read this again for I know that I know ," Could you give me an example of a few specific scriptures that you understand to the point of never having to review those scriptures for "truth's" sake? Maybe just four or five scriptures.
And how many of these questions will you now ignore? You are cultish in your doctrine and blind to any possibility of change. That is NOT the leadership of the Spirit.
I will await your answers.
jd
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 03:24:07 -0500
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Law and Spirit
Whatever JD; You asked the question, I just answered it.
Maybe it's best for you to stick with Barth and leave Romans to those who understand Paul the apostle who
is inspired by the Spirit of God. As I've said before scripture is 'spiritually discerned' 1 Cor 2:14. So my reason, your reason, and/or Barth's reasonings have nothing to do with anything, not anything important that is.
