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I've been just as clear as you've been on this.
Including others is not a 'groupfest thingy', Judy. Have you truly failed to
take note of anyone's recent disagreement with you over your scriptural
interpretation? I've most certainly NOT failed to note them!
Here is a very serious suggestion! Let's have David
and Perry prounce on this issue. Let's say that if anything warrants being
thrown off the list, it'd be blasphemy. Agreed? Given their and your
understanding we could, it'd appear, think this list out considerably.
Thereafter, only those of you who saw things your way on this issue would
remain.
So, let's go ahead with this, shall
we?
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Sent: December 19, 2005 09:25
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] And Gary, and
John, and Bill and, on occasion(s), Linda and David
You just love the groupfest thing don't you
Lance?.
You talk yourself into a corner and then want
everyone who has ever disagreed with anything
I have ever said on this list to join you. How
very sad!!! I say the Spirit of God gives
me
understanding as per John 16:3,14 and you say He does
not because it differs from what you
think. One of us is blaspheming the Holy
Spirit. But let's leave the others out of it.
Shall we accuse them ALL of blasphemy? C'mon let's do it!
Surely it's not a serious charge is it, Judy?
You couldn't make
this kind of a judgment call unless you considered yourself to have
apprehended
ALL TRUTH which would put you in the position to
judge in your own estimation.
NO! I very much believe that the Scriptures are
operative in your life. I just believe your interpretations
of them to be 'hit and miss', just like everyone else
('ceptin some are better at it than you)
Yes Lance "them" - (that is unless you
receive interpretation through some educated person that
you
respect). You do not believe that the
scriptures I cite below are operative in my life no matter what I say
which is in effect blaspheming the Holy
Spirit if in fact, I am speaking the truth.
'Them'? The Scriptures?
I should actually appreciate staying with this
important matter until it is abundantly clear. Clear to me, to you,
and, to DAVID MILLER and to all others on TT, Judy.
DAVID MILLER ACCUSED ME OF BLASPHEMY, as I recall,
ON THIS VERY MATTER AND, VIS A VIS JUDY TAYLOR!
Since you apparently do not
either understand them or believe them Lance, why would
you want to put
everyone into your theological box?
If I did not understand them, naturally I
would not employ them - but this one is
a no brainer. Jesus says:
"It is expedient for you that I go away
for if I go not away the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I
depart I will send him unto you" (John
16:7)
"Howbeit when he the Spirit of truth is
come he will guide you into all truth; for he shall not speak
of
himself but whatsoever he shall hear that
shall he speak and he will show you things to come. He shall
glorify me; for he shall receive of mine,
and shall show it unto you" (John 16:13,14)
Ever the optimist, Lance once again asks Judy:
Do you always and completely UNDERSTAND & EMPLOY THEM
(those Scriptures you cite) as God and the
author means them?
Oh well,
guess the Promise does not mean as
much to you.
It is this constant bit
of judging that renders your influence nil.
Bit of judging? I am just
reflecting back to Lance what he has already written to me,
so how is it me that is
judging - never him? They
name streets after you JD.
To speak as if you know anything at
all about Lance and his attachment to the "promise" is
not just misinformed -- it is a cheap ad
hom .
I don't profess to know the first
thing about Lance JD. However, I do know something
about the Promise of
the Father and
this is what the wonderful Lance negates in my life... so
how is it you don't take up for me??
Lance is actually the one who is
doing the judging.
It is not "judging" to say that you
do not understand scritpture - although such a
statement involves a judgment. It is judging ,
however, when you put yourself in the place of God and
make your determinations. jd
By stating that I do not understand
scripture Lance is putting himself in the place of God and
so are you.
From:
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I do Lance, this is why I try to
stick with scripture - in spite of your belief that
all I have is regard for same. Oh well,
guess the Promise does not mean
as much to you.
With apologies (sort of) in advance to
David Miller and Linda Shields, I ask you once again,
Judy: Do you believe that you are MORE DISCERNING THAN
JOHN CALVIN? IMO, your regard for Scriptures
appears to be second to nobody on TT. (regard NOT being
the same thing as understanding). However, you do indeed
appear to read/study and live it insofar as you are
enabled. Scripture is a primary source for you. Amen!
for that. Now, other than the blessed internet, how much
of John Calvin's own writings, have you actually
read. Do you possess anything whatsoever by him? If all
that you know of him would be classed as 'hearsay' then
do cease and desist from your unfounded allegations
hereafter. Stick to that which
you claim to understand,
please?.
Sure they do, they camp
around John Calvin don't they? Why do you think
there are so many
different doctrines all
claiming to be the truth?
..do Bible readers 'camp' around
theological error in your neck of the
woods?
CPL, Are [Bible] readers
who believe that JC taught that encouraging
the baptism of the HS for the already
converted 'sums up the Law and Prophets'
Christian/s?
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Matt 7:11 is a
scripture that is used to encourage people to
seek the Baptism in
the Holy
Spirit... jt
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for reference:
7:12So in everything, do
[the good] to others [t]hat you would have
them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the
Prophets.
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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