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You and David have accused ME of blasphemy. By
extension you've similarly accused the 'trio' as you call them. Kicked off
or not, I should like for this to go ahead. 'Blaspheming' is serious business,
Judy.
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Sent: December 19, 2005 09:51
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] And Gary, and
John, and Bill and, on occasion(s), Linda and David
I've been just as clear as you've been on this. Including
others is not a 'groupfest thingy', Judy. Have you truly failed to take note
of anyone's recent disagreement with you over your scriptural
interpretation? I've most certainly NOT failed to note them!
Who are the "others"? Gary John and
Bill? Your theological trio?
Here is a very serious suggestion! Let's have David and
Perry prounce on this issue.
Let's say that if anything warrants being thrown off the
list, it'd be blasphemy. Agreed? Given their and your understanding we
could,
it'd appear, think this list out considerably. Thereafter,
only those of you who saw things your way on this issue would remain.
So,
let's go ahead with this, shall we?
No, something like this would automatically
eliminate the MC and DavidM has reasons for wanting them
here; also Jesus Himself said to let the wheat
and tares grow together. The angels will do the
separating
soon enough and in that day the judgment will be
perfect.
You just love the groupfest thing don't you
Lance?.
You talk yourself into a corner and then want
everyone who has ever disagreed with anything
I have ever said on this list to join you.
How very sad!!! I say the Spirit of God
gives me
understanding as per John 16:3,14 and you say He
does not because it differs from what you
think. One of us is blaspheming the Holy
Spirit. But let's leave the others out of it.
Shall we accuse them ALL of blasphemy? C'mon let's do
it! Surely it's not a serious charge is it, Judy?
You couldn't
make this kind of a judgment call unless you considered yourself to
have apprehended
ALL TRUTH which would put you in the position
to judge in your own estimation.
NO! I very much believe that the Scriptures are
operative in your life. I just believe your
interpretations
of them to be 'hit and miss', just like everyone
else ('ceptin some are better at it than you)
Yes Lance "them" - (that is unless you
receive interpretation through some educated person that
you
respect). You do not believe that
the scriptures I cite below are operative in my life no matter
what I say which is in effect
blaspheming the Holy Spirit if in fact, I am speaking the
truth.
'Them'? The Scriptures?
I should actually appreciate staying with this
important matter until it is abundantly clear. Clear to me, to
you, and, to DAVID MILLER and to all others on TT,
Judy.
DAVID MILLER ACCUSED ME OF BLASPHEMY, as I
recall, ON THIS VERY MATTER AND, VIS A VIS JUDY
TAYLOR!
Since you apparently do not
either understand them or believe them Lance, why
would you want to put
everyone into your theological
box?
If I did not understand them,
naturally I would not employ them - but this one is a no brainer. Jesus says:
"It is expedient for you that I go
away for if I go not away the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I
depart I will send him unto you"
(John 16:7)
"Howbeit when he the Spirit of truth
is come he will guide you into all truth; for he shall not
speak of
himself but whatsoever he shall hear
that shall he speak and he will show you things to come. He
shall
glorify me; for he shall receive of
mine, and shall show it unto you" (John 16:13,14)
Ever the optimist, Lance once again asks
Judy: Do you always and completely UNDERSTAND & EMPLOY
THEM
(those Scriptures you cite) as God and the
author means them?
Oh well,
guess the Promise does not mean
as much to you.
It is this constant bit
of judging that renders your influence
nil.
Bit of judging? I am just
reflecting back to Lance what he has already written to
me, so how is it me that is
judging - never him? They
name streets after you JD.
To speak as if you know
anything at all about Lance and his attachment to the
"promise" is not just misinformed
-- it is a cheap ad hom .
I don't profess to know the
first thing about Lance JD. However, I do know
something about the Promise of
the Father
and this is what the wonderful Lance negates in my
life... so how is it you don't take up for
me??
Lance is actually the one who
is doing the judging.
It is not "judging" to say that
you do not understand scritpture - although such a
statement involves a judgment. It is judging
, however, when you put yourself in the place of
God and make your
determinations. jd
By stating that I do not
understand scripture Lance is putting himself in the
place of God and so are you.
From:
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I do Lance, this is why I try
to stick with scripture - in spite of your belief
that all I have is regard for same. Oh
well,
guess the Promise does not
mean as much to you.
With apologies (sort of) in
advance to David Miller and Linda Shields, I ask you
once again, Judy: Do you believe that you are MORE
DISCERNING THAN JOHN CALVIN? IMO, your regard
for Scriptures appears to be second to nobody on TT.
(regard NOT being the same thing as understanding).
However, you do indeed appear to read/study and live
it insofar as you are enabled. Scripture is a
primary source for you. Amen! for that. Now, other
than the blessed internet, how much of John Calvin's
own writings, have you actually read. Do you
possess anything whatsoever by him? If all that you
know of him would be classed as 'hearsay' then do
cease and desist from your unfounded allegations
hereafter. Stick to that
which you claim to understand,
please?.
Sure they do, they camp
around John Calvin don't they? Why do you
think there are so many
different doctrines all
claiming to be the truth?
..do Bible readers 'camp' around
theological error in your neck of the
woods?
CPL, Are [Bible] readers
who believe that JC taught that encouraging
the baptism of the HS for the already
converted 'sums up the Law and Prophets'
Christian/s?
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Matt 7:11 is a
scripture that is used to encourage people to
seek the Baptism in
the Holy
Spirit... jt
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--
for reference:
7:12So in everything, do
[the good] to others [t]hat you would have
them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the
Prophets.
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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