You are spending too much time listening to your own personal bias.   Baptism of the Spirit occurs on nearly every occasion I  am involved in the singing of song as per Eph 5:18-19.   I have even written of my first experience of baptism on this forum.  
 
There is no confusion on my part nor do I believe that you can point to anything I have ever written that presents confusion of a personal nature on this subject.  But good try. 
 
jd.
 
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Because in past posts you seem to have some confusion about what being born again even means.  Sometimes you seem to say you have not been, while other times you claim you have been.  So I wonder which is true.  If you have been born again I would like to hear your testimony.  I didn’t know you questioned my being born again, even though I have testified to it in the past..  izzy

 


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Why do you care? 

 

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When were you born again, jd? iz

 


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Of course  I have.   And the illumination of the Spirit's presense is just as great and affirming as anything you might have.   I too question your "birth."   But God kows for sure and I will leave it in His hands.  

 

jd

 

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JD, have you ever been “born again of the Spirit”? iz

 


Huh?   I can't pray for what I don't understand because my prayer tongue is English??  !!     My wife prays in tongues.   I have been around the experience for years and years, David.  I am just as much in the spirit as my wife during worship times.   Time after time I have simply knelt during worship or stood with raised hands and just let it all soak in .    At those times,  I am fully aware of the promised intervention of the Spirit on my behalf.   God speakst to me, David, just as certainly as He does to you and, who knows, maybe more often.    But the experience of Spirit filling  (read: spirit baptism) is not the center of my "new nature."   The Lordship of Christ is.     The Lord has revealed to me the vanity of placing too much stock in "spiritual knowledge."  

 

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