Re: [TruthTalk] Who decides

[Judy Taylor]

We don't appeal to logic to understand God's Word JD; but then I shouldn't be surprised since you are so

into Greek issues ...  Everything spoken of in Mark 16:14-18 is spoken of elsewhere. jt

 

On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 07:55:28 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Linda, you might try reading Mark 16:14-18 before actually making an attempt at an argument from "logic."   V. 14 tells us His audience.   Who is He talking to?    The Christian Church or the 11?   A really good second quetion is this:  do you think this is the only passage in which the gospel and water baptism are taught?  jd

From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Really???? So only the apostles are saved if they believe and are baptized?
> That does not go for anyone since the apostles? iz


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> I stated that I do in my original post below.
>
> >From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> >To:
> >Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Who decides
> >Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:46:19 -0600
> >
> >Perry, so do you think the "He" in verse 16 refers only to the apostles,
> >too? izzy
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Moore
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 5:54 PM
> >To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who decides
> >
> >cd: I agree Perry.
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To:
> > > Date: 12/21/2005 5:00:05 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who decides
> > >
> > > David,
> > >
> > > Regarding your item 2, we might also conclude that Jesus was speaking
> > > specifically to the apostles, and that this does not apply to all
> >believers.
> > > The key is to identify the ant ecedent of "He" in verse 16, which I
> >believe
> > > to exclusively be the apostles.
> > >
> > > Perry
> > >
> > > David wrote:
> > >
> > > 2. Mark 16:16-20
> > > (16) He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that
> >believeth
> > > not shall be damned.
> > > (17) And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall
> >they
> > > cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
> > > (18) They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it
> > > shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall
> > > recover.
> > > (19) So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up
> >into
> > > heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
> > > (20) And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord worki ng
> >with
> > > them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
> > >
> > > How many Christians have believed and been baptized but have not seen
> >any
> >of
> > > these signs follow them? Again, we either have to conclude that the
> >concept
> > > of faith as taught by Jesus is something greater than the popular
> >concept
> >of
> > > it, or that Jesus was bearing false testimony here, or perhaps that this
> > > passage only applies to the immediate believers to whom he spoke. I
> >take
> > > the position that faith is something more than what most people think
> >faith
> > > is.
> > >
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