Judy,  it is critically important to me that Jesus be God.   It is in this world, on this earth and clothed with the same flesh as I that Jesus establishes Himself and His mission as that which continues the work of the Israel of God.   I serve Him because of what He did in this world.  I worship Him becuase of who He  is in this world.  
 
jd
 
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From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
JD,
I may be mistaken but I get the idea you are constantly striving over these "Jesus is God" and
"Eternal Son" issues to try to conform scripture to the teachings of the Church Fathers or what
is known as "Orthodoxy" extra Biblical teachings that have been handed down generationally.
 
Why not submit oneself to God's Word and allow Him to give you understanding.  You know how
every word is established by two or more scriptural witnesses? Well here is another witness to
the truth of Col 1:19.
 
"It was God (personally present in Christ), reconciling and restoring the world to favor with Himself, not
counting up and holding against (men) their trespasses (but cancelling them) and committing to us
the message of reconciliation (of the restoration to favor)." (2 Cor 5:19) Amp
 
Notice it does not say it was Christ as God who reconciled the world to himself?
 
The Holy Spirit is part of the Godhead - He is equal to both Father and Son; Jesus as son of man
walked in His fullness.  So tell me, what is wrong with just allowing God to be God and allowing His
Word to reveal His intent to this generation?  We don't want to repeat Israel's error ... you know the
stiff neck syndrome...

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