No, Bill is using the Bible to correct you,
and to exhort you to change your mind, Judy.
You don't have
understanding of the Bible Bill. You are using Words to make
everything biological completely missing the main point.
Sin is a spiritual issue with a
biological ripple effect generationally. God is a spirit.
Satan is a spirit.
Sin/righteousness are not a biological issues.
You want to spiritualize the Seed doctrine, when
the Scriptures tell you that Jesus is the Seed of David according to
flesh.
Sperma isn't the only kind of
seed discussed in scripture Bill and I am not taking anything out of
context in order to "spiritualize" it. The order is first the
natural and then the spiritual. Adam/David are the natural.
Jesus is the Promise which is spiritual. The first Adam was a
living soul. The second Adam is a life-giving Spirit.
And if it is according to the flesh that Christ
was born, and this of David's seed, then what flesh do you think John is
speaking of when he ascribes the spirit of antichrist to those who deny
it? I am not making a bigger deal of this than I ought, Judy. I want you
to have every opportunity to know and understand the error of your
doctrine, because, believe it or not, it does make a difference how you
answer the question: "Who do you say that I am?"
I don't now and never have
denied that Jesus was given and walked about in a flesh body Bill.
What I do deny is that is was a SINFUL AND FALLEN flesh body exactly and in every way like those
He was sent to redeem.
Please don't let your disdain for people (and this
your elder brothers in Christ) cloud your ability to affirm truth when
it is presented to you.
I reject the accusation
above since I have no disdain for persons - only the doctrines that do
not conform them to godliness and holiness .... You know Bill God juxtaposes the two kinds of seed in
Genesis 3:15. I wonder whose loins the seed of the
adversary came through.
They (feminine plural) came through the
loins of Adam, just as did every human being who came after him. All
that Adam was capable of producing after his fall and
subsequent removal from the Garden was human beings destined to
die. Yet for some reason the first fallen words out of his mouth --
that is, after their encounter with God -- were ones which changed
his wife's name from "Woman," the one who had been made from his flesh,
etc., to "Eve," the mother of all who live.
So are you saying the Gen
3:15 prophecy refers to Eve rather than to Mary or to both of
them?
Judy, if Jesus is not of Eve's
blood then she is not his mother. Her flesh is not his flesh
and her "Seed" (masculine singular) does not reach him. The truth is,
however, that it does! Adam was privy to something that you deny.
He calls her the mother of all the living.
It is possible to
be biolgically living and still be spiritually dead
Bill.
Something was going to spring from her womb that
was going to justify life for all life. Follow the Seed promised to Eve
throughout the Old Testament and you will discover an amazing story. Let
that Seed pass through Seth, and Noah, and Abraham, and Jacob, and
Judah, and David, and let it find fulfillment in the womb of Mary, and
you will begin to realize the promise. But spiritualize it into
abstraction and you could end up missing it all. Bill
Noone is spiritualizing
anything into "abstraction" Bill. Are you willing to let God be
God or not? Jesus did not come to make some biological statement - or to carry
demonized humanity off to heaven. He was pure and holy at his
birth which is a claim NOT ONE OTHER biological human being has been able to make
since Adam fell and this includes John the Baptist who was spirit
filled from his mother's womb.
When God sent Jesus believe me He
was not making a BIOLOGICAL STATEMENT and striving over
words
while clinging to erroneous doctrine
only makes it worse. Why did Jesus say to
Nicodemus:
"If I have told you earthly things
and you believe not, how shall you believe if I tell you of heavenly
things" (Jn 3:12).
