Dean - I will use this as a benchmark statement. David's post says it all. Nothing else to say. Please consider what he is telling you.
Judy -------- you too.
jd
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Dean wrote:
> > Respectfully David -Judy has stated dozens
> > of times that she believes Christ came in the
> > flesh. Yet the group keeps denying she denying
> > she said this. Why can't people hear her?
>
> We can't hear Judy when she says this because when we get down to discussing
> the details, we learn that she redefines flesh. When she says flesh, she
> does not mean flesh like you and I have. She means a very different kind of
> flesh, one that is not under the curse that came upon Adam and came upon
> Christ, Christ being under the law. He was made a curse for us and
> ultimately came to be sin for us, that we might be made the righteousness of
> God. This was something that began the moment he became flesh.. Such is
> taught in Philippians 2 and Isaiah 53.
>
> Philippians 2:6-9
> (6) Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with
> God:
> (7) But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a
> servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
> (8) And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became
> obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
> (9) Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which
> is above every name
>
> Isaiah 53:1-5
> (1) Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD
> revealed?
> (2) For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of
> a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him,
> there is no beauty that we should desire him.
> (3) He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted
> with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from h im; he was despised, and
> we esteemed him not.
> (4) Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did
> esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
> (5) But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our
> iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes
> we are healed.
>
> If the flesh of Jesus was different, the statement that Jesus Christ is not
> come in the flesh becomes meaningless. Why even tell us that this is the
> spirit of AntiChrist? Study the history and you will see how the gnostics
> claimed revelation about the creation and introduced many false ideas,
> including the idea that Jesus was not really in the flesh like us but that
> it was only an illusion. This same demon works in the doctrine of the
> Muslims, who cannot fathom how it could be possible for God to touch this
> sinful humanity and become human. The next step of this doctrine i s to
> claim that Jesus did not really die on the cross, but that was only an
> illusion. The mystery of God is wrapped up in this understanding of Christ
> coming in the flesh of man, of the seed of David and Abraham, and so once
> your spirit sees it, you can't understand why others are blind to the
> miracle of God in the flesh. Judy will continue to argue with her mind, but
> eventually, perhaps in prayer, perhaps when she least expects it, the Spirit
> will reveal even this unto her.
>
> David Miller
>
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> you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org
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