cd: David- Judy stated what she believes and I find no fault in it. On campus a student came to me yesterday and apologized to me for his mockery to me. He stated that as he heard discussions in class that claimed I was against women,and judging people ,and hate homosexuals, he then realized that I had clearly told student why I am not against women, nor judging people ,or hating homos and that they were changing the words I had spoken to be a lie. See that you don't do the same with Judy-in all our conversations our opinions grow to higher states-allow Judy that also.
> [Original Message] > From: Judith H Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 2/1/2006 10:24:16 PM > Subject: [TruthTalk] Fw: Interesting observation > > > Dean wrote: > > Respectfully David -Judy has stated dozens > > of times that she believes Christ came in the > > flesh. Yet the group keeps denying she denying > > she said this. Why can't people hear her? > > DM:We can't hear Judy when she says this because when we get down to > discussing > the details, we learn that she redefines flesh. When she says flesh, she > > does not mean flesh like you and I have. > > jt: I do mean flesh like we all have David; the difference between Jesus > the Christ and > us is spiritual like as in nature. We come into this world with a fallen > nature; he did not. > > She means a very different kind of flesh, one that is not under the curse > that came upon > Adam and came upon Christ, Christ being under the law. > > jt: The law is not cursed David; the law is spiritual, holy, and good so > being under the > law does not make Christ cursed. He became a curse for us at Calvary, > not before. > > He was made a curse for us and ultimately came to be sin for us, that we > might be made > the righteousness of God. This was something that began the moment he > became flesh. > > jt: No David; he became sin for us at Calvary. How you ppl can claim > that he is fully God > and sin ATST I can not fathom. This is why he found the cross so > abhorrent because for > the first time he was separated from the Father ie: "My God, My God, why > hast thou > forsaken Me?" > > Such is taught in Philippians 2 and Isaiah 53. > > Philippians 2:6-9 > (6) Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal > with > God: > (7) But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a > servant, and was made in the likeness of men: > (8) And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became > obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. > (9) Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name > which > is above every name > > Isaiah 53:1-5 > (1) Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD > revealed? > (2) For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out > of > a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, > there is no beauty that we should desire him. > (3) He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted > with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, > and > we esteemed him not. > (4) Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did > esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. > (5) But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our > iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his > stripes > we are healed. > > jt: How do the above two scriptures teach what you claim? Isa 53 was not > true before the cross and Phil does not spell out your thesis either. > > If the flesh of Jesus was different, the statement that Jesus Christ is > not > come in the flesh becomes meaningless. Why even tell us that this is the > > spirit of AntiChrist? Study the history and you will see how the > gnostics > claimed revelation about the creation and introduced many false ideas, > including the idea that Jesus was not really in the flesh like us but > that > it was only an illusion. This same demon works in the doctrine of the > Muslims, who cannot fathom how it could be possible for God to touch this > > sinful humanity and become human. The next step of this doctrine is to > claim that Jesus did not really die on the cross, but that was only an > illusion. > > jt: Only I am not saying any of the above David and what I believe is not > gnostic, nor is it from Islam. I believe the scriptures. > > The mystery of God is wrapped up in this understanding of Christ > coming in the flesh of man, of the seed of David and Abraham, and so once > > your spirit sees it, you can't understand why others are blind to the > miracle of God in the flesh. > > jt: God the Word come in the flesh is one thing. A fallen God in sinful > flesh > is another. Being born of a woman who is of the seed of David and > Abraham > is one thing. The iniquities of the fathers come down through the male. > Jesus > had no earthly father; this is a point all of you ignore. > > Judy will continue to argue with her mind, but > eventually, perhaps in prayer, perhaps when she least expects it, the > Spirit > will reveal even this unto her. > > jt: I believe the Spirit has shown me these truths David; we are not > supposed to > leave our minds at the door. > > David Miller > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a > friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." 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