I don't hear Judy saying that a
spirit taught her that the flesh of Jesus was not genetically related to his
ancestors. If she did, then we could readily judge that this spirit is
not of God and direct her to reject this spirit. I think Judy's
perceptions come from her framework of understanding the Bible.
Furthermore, her lack of knowledge about the physical nature of Jesus does
not rise to the level of blasphemy. On the contrary, it is her sense
of protecting Christ from anything that even sounds blasphemous that causes
her to respond the way she does.
jt: David blaspheming Jesus is not the
unforgiveable sin and is not the reason I differ from some of you in my
understanding of
Jesus. I don't think any of you know a
whole lot about the so called "physical" nature of Jesus either and
much of what is written about it is pure speculation. However I do
believe he walked about in a flesh and blood body like ours except for
fallenness and sin.
It is kind of like if you
like somebody so much and think the world of them, and your assumption of
good parents is that they would never raise their voice to their children
and somebody tells them that this person yelled at their child. Your
first response might be, no way, you are mistaken, he would never do
that. Not until that person comes and says, "yes, I did raise my
voice" would you realize that you were wrong. Then you would have some
rethinking to do about whether or not yelling at children is wrong in every
situation.
jt: Cute analogy David but
irrelevant.
Many of us know from the Bible that Jesus went into the Temple several
times and kicked out the people who were buying and selling animals for
their sacrifices commanded by Torah.
jt: I know of him doing it one time - where do you find the
several? His was not selfish zeal - it was for his Father's house that
the money lenders were making a den of thieves by scamming the people.
Most people in our culture are ignorant of the Bible and when this is
described to them, they immediately deny that it could be true. Their
perception of Jesus is someone who is so meek and loving that he never
offended anyone, and for someone to characterize him as acting this way,
well, it seems outright blasphemous. I think this also somewhat
describes Judy's motivation for not acknowledging that Jesus's body
was physically descended from David.
jt: I understand why Jesus cleansed the temple and have no
problem with it but this has nothing to do with my
belief regarding Jesus' body. I am so tired of this
physically descended from David argument. All I know is
what the scriptures say which is that he was born of a woman
and born under the law. Yes the woman is in David's lineage and this is
about as far as we can take it because David is not his father. God
is.
David M.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006
6:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw:
Interesting observation
The only knowledge of Christ available to us is that
which comes by way of the Holy Spirit. To blaspheme Christ in this age is
to blaspheme his Spirit. "By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit
that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of
God."
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006
4:22 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw:
Interesting observation
Perceptive post Lance? Give me a break! You ppl are so
into opinions ... Morality is a thing to be desired so why malign this
also by adding the "self" like you know something that nobody else is
aware of. You've not even heard the first one of them preaching on
the street have you?
To JD .. blaspheming the name of Jesus is not what gets you in
trouble, it is blaspheming the Holy Spirit that is the unpardonable sin
and you don't appear to have a clue about Him.
Judyt
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