John wrote:
> You know how I feel about the scriptures.

No, I really do not.  Do you believe that the Scriptures are the infallible 
Word of God?  Are the Scriptures a standard to which all believers must 
align themselves?

John wrote:
> But scripture is one thing and my understanding
> of scripture is another.  One is"infallable" and the
> other is not  --------  and that is the case for  us
> all.

If this were true, then the Scriptures are no standard at all.  Are you 
saying that our understanding of Scripture is ALWAYS prone to error and 
therefore none of us can be sure that we understand the Scriptures, ever?

If this is your position, then the Scriptures are not profitable for reproof 
and correction because someone could always just say that the person giving 
the correction misunderstands the Scripture.  For example, homosexuals have 
a legitimate counter when they claim that the homosexuality forbidden in the 
Bible has to do with pagan worship and not just same gender lustful behavior 
per se.  Who is to say which interpretation or understanding is right if 
nobody has an infallible understanding?  In like manner, someone could argue 
that Jesus is not really the Messiah talked about in Isaiah 53.  Virtually 
all the prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures could be explained away.  I 
truly would like to hear you expound upon your concept here, because either 
I am misunderstanding you or this is serious false doctrine.

John wrote:
> The authority of leadership within the
> church is their life, their example.

That's part of it, a primary part of it, but not all of it.  You keep 
quoting 1 Cor. 5.  This chapter shows a little more than just example when 
Paul instructs the Corinthians to cast out the sinner from their church.

Recently you experienced a 1 Cor. 5 type of discipline from the moderator of 
this list.  I realize that this list is not a church, but do you agree that 
this kind of exercise of authority is proper in God's eyes?

John wrote:
> The hierarchy of the church is this:
> Ye who are spiritual help those who
> are weak.  And I speak as one who
> is leadership.

What is your leadership position in your local church?

David Miller 

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