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I'm satisfied that you caught my
meaning.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: March 04, 2006 01:01
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of
truthtalk?
"Ye compass land and sea............" I
couldn't have chosen a subject that is
more apropo
Why
not state the WHOLE scripture?
Remeber that CONTEXT
thingy.
MT 23:5 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees,
hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one
proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell
than yourselves.
Context HYPOCRITES it is all over the chapter!
HYP'OCRITE, n.
1. One who feigns to be what he is not; one who
has the form of godliness without the power, or who assumes an appearance of
piety and virtue, when he is destitute of true religion.
And the hypocrite's hope shall perish.
Job.8.
2. A dissembler; one who assumes a false
appearance.
Fair hypocrite, you seek to cheat in
vain.
Definition from Webster's American Dictionary of the English
Language, 1828.
Now where were we?
O yeah we were discussing preaching from a soapbox with out
any resultant ACTION on the part of the preacher.
another words saying while not doing. TALK IS
CHEAP
Would preaching against WMD whilst funding the same thru CPP
and Canadian exports of DEPLETED Uranium qualify as HYPOCRITICAL?
BTW Great Chapter MT 23 here is some more:
Mat 23:3 All therefore whatsoever
they bid you observe, [that] observe and do; but do
not ye after their works: for they say, and do
not. (context saying
whilest not DOing?)
Mat 23:4 For they bind
heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay [them] on men's
shoulders; but they [themselves] will not move them
with one of their fingers.
What are you doing about the problem?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 3/3/2006 7:58:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit'
of truthtalk?
"Ye compass land and sea............" I
couldn't have chosen a subject that is more apropo. In a wierd kind of way
I suppose, I should thank TT for continued examples...
----- Original Message -----
Sent: March 03, 2006 07:35
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The
'spirit' of truthtalk?
I send you link after link on RC's being tried by the International
court, you tell me what someone told you.
Facts VS Hearsay
You choose the latter, is it to protect your RC
friends? Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
If this sampling of repartee is as good
as it gets.....(oh yah! my ideology can beat up your ideology! ) then,
perspectivalism thy name is Truth(?)talk!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: March 03, 2006
07:17
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The
'spirit' of truthtalk?
FACT- Hearsay
Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
In FACT I have my FACTS straight. My
source for my FACTS was in Rwanda. FACT: I've known this person
for 15 years. FACT:He is a (non RCC) Christian.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: March 03, 2006
06:44
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
Then why do you blame "Christians" for Rwandan genocide
when it was ROMAN CATholics?
The earth is flat, we did't
actually go to the moon (it was shot in a movie studio), the
moon is made of green cheese, the universe is geocentric,
alien abductions proliferate, the rapture is coming, 6 day
young earth creationism ought to be taught in schools (?), RCC
is/is not Christian, US foreign policy is flawless, the
trilateral commission works for the good of womankind, all
TRUE believers understand scripture as it should be understood
and all TRUE believers live sin free.
Of course facts matter and, they
are not irrelevant.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: March 03, 2006
06:16
Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
Facts are such STUBBORN
things....
Simply read the 'subject'
along with the content ('spirit' - so much anger,
judgmentalism, self-righteousness and pride!) of some of
the posts of some. I rest my case your honor.
----- Original Message
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Sent: March 02,
2006 19:08
Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
Some
of those in Rwanda who perpetrated the genocide were
believers.
WRONG AGAIN
Stop slurring Christians by trying to lump them in
with Catholic KILLERS.
You play real loose with Facts. Are Facts
irrelevant to you?
Maybe you need a program so you can tell
apart the players?
Rwandan nuns were convicted of
murder for their roles in the massacre of 7,000 Tutsis
who sought protection at a Benedictine
convent.
I think that means it was those loving
catholics again!
Same old RC
Church as it ever was:
an international court is trying several
Catholic priests for their alleged role
in the massacres, in which Hutus murdered 800,000
minority Tutsis and moderate Hutus
Father Seromba's trial at the International
Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda will revive heated
debate about the role of the Catholic Church during the
dark days of 1994. The Catholic hierarchy in Rwanda had
close ties to extremist politicians in the run up to the
genocide and some priests like Father
Seromba are accused of actively assisting the
Hutu militias.
In 2001, two nuns were found
guilty of taking part in the genocide in a
Belgian court. The Vatican
accepts there are individuals in the church who
committed crimes, but controversially,
it says the Church as an institution cannot be held to
blame. At the time of the genocide, some 60% of
Rwandans were Catholic but some have since
converted to Islam, saying the Church failed them in
1994.
http://www.pambazuka.org/en/category/features/21165 Rwanda
was the most Christianized country in Africa and the
Roman Catholics were far and away the largest Christian
denomination. Catholicism was virtually the
official state religion. Catholic officials had
enormous influence at both the elite and the grassroots
level, which they consistently failed to use to protest
against the governments overtly racist policies and
practices. Indeed, the Church gave the
government moral authority. Once the genocide
began, Catholic leaders in the main refused to condemn
the government, never used the word genocide, and many
individual priests and nuns actually aided the
genocidaires.
This is just another show of what happens when the
Catholics & the Government are in BED TOG$TH$R
AbSOLUTE ANNIHILATION whether it was then or now.
Call it genocide if you want I call it the TRUE
BELIEVER doing service to their 'god'
Catholic and Reformed Catholic are just as TOLERANT
as the Muslim
GENOCIDE IS Roman
Catholicism!
"And I saw
the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with
the blood of the martyrs of Jesus..."
See the HIGHLITES of their HISTORY
below>>>>>
Argument 2d. Experience shows that terror is not
effective. I reply, EXPERIENCE PROVES THE CONTRARYFOR
THE DONATISTS, MANICHEANS, AND ALBIGENSES WERE ROUTED,
AND ANNIHILATED BY ARMS. -- Robert
Bellarmine, Disputationes de Controversiis, Tom. ii,
Lib. III, cap. XXII, "Objections Answered," 1682
edition.
Roman Catholic Ustaa 1941 to 1943, the
regime slaughtered at least (estimates range up to 1
million) 250,000 Serb residents of Croatia and Bosnia,
and more than 20,000 Jews.
1941-JUL-22, Dr. Mile Budak, the
Ustaa
Minister of Education and
Cults, said: "The
movement of the Ustashi is based on religion. For
minorities-Serbs, Jews and Gypsies, we have three
million bullets. We shall kill one part of the
Serbs. We shall transport another, and the rest of them
will be forced to embrace the Roman Catholic
religion. Thus, our new Croatia will get rid of all
Serbs in our midst in order to become one hundred
percent Catholic within ten years."
Inquisition: It has been estimated
by careful and reputed historians of the Catholic
Inquisition that 50 million people were slaughtered for
the crime of "heresy" by Roman persecutors between the
A.D. 606 and the middle of the 19th century. By their
own (RC) count 125,000 trials of suspected heretics in
Spain alone, in Portugal, 5.7 percent of the more than
13,000 people tried before church tribunals in the 16th
and early 17th century were condemned to death.
Clarks Martyrology counts the number of
Waldensian martyrs during the first
half of the 13th century in France alone at two million.
From A.D. 1160-1560 the Waldensians that dwelt in the
Italian Alps were visited with 36 different fierce
persecutions that spared neither age nor sex (Thomas
Armitage, A History of the Baptists, "Post-Apostolic
Times -- The Waldensians," 1890). They were
almost completely destroyed as a people
and most of their literary record was
erased from the face of the
earth.
From the year 1540 to 1570 "it is
proved by national authentic testimony, that nearly
one million of Protestants were publicly put to
death in various countries in Europe, besides all those
who were privately destroyed, and of whom no
human record exists" (J.P. Callender,
Illustrations of Popery, 1838, p. 400).
"From the birth of Popery in 606 to
the present time, it is estimated by careful and
credible historians, that more than fifty millions of the human
family, have been slaughtered for the crime of
heresy by popish persecutors, an average of more than
forty thousand religious murders for every year of the
existence of popery." -- "History of
Romanism," pp. 541, 542. New York: 1871.
These are no kin
of mine.
Maybe they are
your forefathers?
That is why you
are trying to cover?
Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You are far too
sophisticated for this old boy from Canada, Kevin.
Believers (DM seems to prefer this word over
'Christians'. I honestly think that if you're one of
'em then, it doesn't really matter what you call
'em.) are capable of doing some bad stuff. Some
of that 'bad stuff' is really bad stuff.
For example: Some of
those in Rwanda who perpetrated the genocide were
believers. There are other examples but, I'll leave it
there.
'NEW WORLD ORDER'???
You're not one of those conspiracy theory types are
you?
----- Original Message
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Sent: March 01,
2006 20:21
Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
Lance wrote:
Believers in all religions are
equal opportunity 'throat
slitters'
In one little statement you
accomplish:
1)Your affinity with murderous religious thugs
(since you are a member of the set "ALL
RELIGIONS")
2)The inability of true believers to understand
Jesus words
Jhn 18:36 Jesus answered,
My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were
of this world, then would my servants fight, that I
should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my
kingdom not from hence.
3) make the victims of the drownings, hangings,
burnings, & the sword deserving of such
treatment and as morally wrong as the religious
murderers (RC & Reformed RC's) (surely in
your eyes being a part of "all religions" they would
do the same.
In spite of the historical facts that some do
not have BLOOD on their hands!)
Jhn 16:2 They shall put you
out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that
whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God
service.
The OLD WORLD ORDER is the same as the NEW
WORLD ORDER
The names have been changed to protect the
guilty.
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