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I'm never satisfied, Dean.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: March 04, 2006 09:37
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of
truthtalk?
Are you satified that you are DOing?
Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
I'm satisfied that you caught my
meaning.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: March 04, 2006 01:01
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit'
of truthtalk?
"Ye compass land and sea............" I
couldn't have chosen a subject that is
more apropo
Why
not state the WHOLE scripture?
Remeber that CONTEXT
thingy.
MT 23:5 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees,
hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one
proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell
than yourselves.
Context HYPOCRITES it is all over the chapter!
HYP'OCRITE, n.
1. One who feigns to be what he is not; one
who has the form of godliness without the power, or who assumes an
appearance of piety and virtue, when he is destitute of true
religion.
And the hypocrite's hope shall perish.
Job.8.
2. A dissembler; one who assumes a false
appearance.
Fair hypocrite, you seek to cheat in
vain.
Definition from Webster's American Dictionary of the
English Language, 1828.
Now where were we?
O yeah we were discussing preaching from a soapbox with
out any resultant ACTION on the part of the preacher.
another words saying while not doing. TALK IS
CHEAP
Would preaching against WMD whilst funding the same thru
CPP and Canadian exports of DEPLETED Uranium qualify as
HYPOCRITICAL?
BTW Great Chapter MT 23 here is some more:
Mat 23:3 All therefore
whatsoever they bid you observe, [that] observe and do; but
do not ye after their works: for they say, and
do not. (context saying whilest not DOing?)
Mat 23:4 For they bind
heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay [them] on
men's shoulders; but they [themselves] will not
move them with one of their
fingers.
What are you doing about the problem?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 3/3/2006 7:58:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The
'spirit' of truthtalk?
"Ye compass land and sea............" I
couldn't have chosen a subject that is more apropo. In a wierd kind of
way I suppose, I should thank TT for continued
examples...
----- Original Message -----
Sent: March 03, 2006
07:35
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The
'spirit' of truthtalk?
I send you link after link on RC's being tried by the
International court, you tell me what someone told you.
Facts VS Hearsay
You choose the latter, is it to protect your RC
friends? Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
If this sampling of repartee is as
good as it gets.....(oh yah! my ideology can beat up your
ideology! ) then, perspectivalism thy name is
Truth(?)talk!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: March 03, 2006
07:17
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
FACT- Hearsay
Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
In FACT I have my FACTS straight.
My source for my FACTS was in Rwanda. FACT: I've known this
person for 15 years. FACT:He is a (non RCC)
Christian.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: March 03, 2006
06:44
Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
Then why do you blame "Christians" for Rwandan genocide
when it was ROMAN CATholics?
The earth is flat, we did't
actually go to the moon (it was shot in a movie studio),
the moon is made of green cheese, the universe is
geocentric, alien abductions proliferate, the rapture is
coming, 6 day young earth creationism ought to be taught
in schools (?), RCC is/is not Christian, US foreign policy
is flawless, the trilateral commission works for the
good of womankind, all TRUE believers understand scripture
as it should be understood and all TRUE believers live sin
free.
Of course facts matter and,
they are not irrelevant.
----- Original Message
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Sent: March 03,
2006 06:16
Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
Facts are such STUBBORN
things....
Simply read the 'subject'
along with the content ('spirit' - so much anger,
judgmentalism, self-righteousness and pride!) of some
of the posts of some. I rest my case your
honor.
----- Original Message
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Sent: March 02,
2006 19:08
Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
Some of those in Rwanda who
perpetrated the genocide were
believers.
WRONG AGAIN
Stop slurring Christians by trying to lump them
in with Catholic KILLERS.
You play real loose with Facts. Are Facts
irrelevant to you?
Maybe you need a program so you can
tell apart the players?
Rwandan nuns were convicted of
murder for their roles in the massacre of 7,000
Tutsis who sought protection at a
Benedictine convent.
I think that means it was those
loving catholics again!
Same old RC
Church as it ever was:
an international court is trying several
Catholic priests for their alleged
role in the massacres, in which Hutus murdered
800,000 minority Tutsis and moderate Hutus
Father Seromba's trial at the
International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda
will revive heated debate about the role of the
Catholic Church during the dark days of 1994. The
Catholic hierarchy in Rwanda had close ties to
extremist politicians in the run up to the genocide
and some priests like Father
Seromba are accused of actively assisting
the Hutu militias.
In 2001, two nuns were
found guilty of taking part in the genocide
in a Belgian court. The
Vatican accepts there are individuals in the church
who committed crimes, but
controversially, it says the Church as an
institution cannot be held to blame. At the time of
the genocide, some 60% of Rwandans were
Catholic but some have since converted to
Islam, saying the Church failed them in 1994.
http://www.pambazuka.org/en/category/features/21165 Rwanda
was the most Christianized country in Africa and the
Roman Catholics were far and away the largest
Christian denomination. Catholicism was
virtually the official state religion.
Catholic officials had enormous influence at both
the elite and the grassroots level, which they
consistently failed to use to protest against the
governments overtly racist policies and practices.
Indeed, the Church gave the government moral
authority. Once the genocide began,
Catholic leaders in the main refused to condemn the
government, never used the word genocide, and many
individual priests and nuns actually aided the
genocidaires.
This is just another show of what happens when
the Catholics & the Government are in BED
TOG$TH$R
AbSOLUTE ANNIHILATION whether it was then or
now.
Call it genocide if you want I call it the TRUE
BELIEVER doing service to their 'god'
Catholic and Reformed Catholic are just as
TOLERANT as the Muslim
GENOCIDE IS
Roman Catholicism!
"And I
saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints,
and with the blood of the martyrs of
Jesus..."
See the HIGHLITES of their HISTORY
below>>>>>
Argument 2d. Experience shows that terror is
not effective. I reply, EXPERIENCE PROVES THE
CONTRARYFOR THE DONATISTS, MANICHEANS, AND
ALBIGENSES WERE ROUTED, AND
ANNIHILATED BY ARMS. -- Robert
Bellarmine, Disputationes de Controversiis, Tom. ii,
Lib. III, cap. XXII, "Objections Answered," 1682
edition.
Roman Catholic Ustaa 1941 to 1943,
the regime slaughtered at least (estimates range up
to 1 million) 250,000 Serb residents of Croatia and
Bosnia, and more than 20,000 Jews.
1941-JUL-22, Dr. Mile Budak, the
Ustaa
Minister of Education and
Cults, said: "The
movement of the Ustashi is based on religion.
For minorities-Serbs, Jews and Gypsies, we have
three million bullets. We shall kill one part
of the Serbs. We shall transport another, and the
rest of them will be forced to embrace the Roman
Catholic religion. Thus, our new Croatia will
get rid of all Serbs in our midst in order to become
one hundred percent Catholic within ten
years."
Inquisition: It has been
estimated by careful and reputed historians of the
Catholic Inquisition that 50 million people were
slaughtered for the crime of "heresy" by Roman
persecutors between the A.D. 606 and the middle of
the 19th century. By their own (RC) count 125,000
trials of suspected heretics in Spain alone, in
Portugal, 5.7 percent of the more than 13,000 people
tried before church tribunals in the 16th and early
17th century were condemned to death.
Clarks Martyrology counts the number of
Waldensian martyrs during the first
half of the 13th century in France alone at two
million. From A.D. 1160-1560 the Waldensians that
dwelt in the Italian Alps were visited with 36
different fierce persecutions that spared
neither age nor sex (Thomas Armitage, A History of
the Baptists, "Post-Apostolic Times -- The
Waldensians," 1890). They were almost
completely destroyed as a people and most
of their literary record was
erased from the face of the
earth.
From the year 1540 to 1570 "it is
proved by national authentic testimony, that nearly
one million of Protestants were publicly put
to death in various countries in Europe, besides all
those who were privately destroyed, and of
whom no human record exists" (J.P.
Callender, Illustrations of Popery, 1838, p.
400).
"From the birth of Popery in 606
to the present time, it is estimated by careful and
credible historians, that more than
fifty
millions of the human family, have been
slaughtered for the crime of heresy by popish
persecutors, an average of more than forty thousand
religious murders for every year of the existence of
popery." -- "History of Romanism,"
pp. 541, 542. New York: 1871.
These are no
kin of mine.
Maybe they
are your forefathers?
That is why
you are trying to cover?
Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You are far too
sophisticated for this old boy from Canada, Kevin.
Believers (DM seems to prefer this word over
'Christians'. I honestly think that if you're one
of 'em then, it doesn't really matter what you
call 'em.) are capable of doing some bad
stuff. Some of that 'bad stuff' is really bad
stuff.
For example: Some of
those in Rwanda who perpetrated the genocide were
believers. There are other examples but, I'll
leave it there.
'NEW WORLD ORDER'???
You're not one of those conspiracy theory types
are you?
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: March
01, 2006 20:21
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
Lance
wrote: Believers in all
religions are equal opportunity
'throat
slitters'
In one little statement you
accomplish:
1)Your affinity with murderous religious
thugs (since you are a member of the set "ALL
RELIGIONS")
2)The inability of true believers to
understand Jesus words
Jhn 18:36 Jesus
answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my
kingdom were of this world, then would my
servants fight, that I should not be delivered
to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from
hence.
3) make the victims of the drownings,
hangings, burnings, & the
sword deserving of such treatment and as
morally wrong as the religious murderers
(RC & Reformed RC's) (surely in your
eyes being a part of "all religions" they would
do the same.
In spite of the historical facts that some
do not have BLOOD on their hands!)
Jhn 16:2 They shall put
you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh,
that whosoever killeth you will think that he
doeth God service.
The OLD WORLD ORDER is the same as the NEW
WORLD ORDER
The names have been changed to protect the
guilty.
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