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Do you understand what you are reading yourself
Lance?
The statement below "Reformed doctrine of election" is
Calvinistic
John Knox who ppl say converted Scotland was
Presbyterian (Calvinistic)
Who pray tell wrote what Torrance calls the "Scots
Confession?"
Also "unprofitable servants" don't make it ... only the
good and "faithful" ones
Clean your eyeglasses Lance and try again
This is powerfully driven home by the Scots Confession in
several articles, such as the twelfth and the fifteenth. All that we do is unworthy, so that we
must fall down before you and unfeignedly confess that we
are unprofitable servantsand it is
precisely Justification by the free Grace of Christ alone that shows us that
all that we are and have done even as believers
is called in question.
You are quite correct as to your TFT
observations, JD. Judy brings to her reading of TFT a bias that will not
permit an equitable treatment of that which is there in the text of his
article.
That is the exact antithesis of the Reformed doctrine
of election, which rests salvation upon the prior and objective decision of
God in Christ
As far as I know, Torrance believed that salvation was offered to
all -- not a Calvinist opinion, my dear. And you are
much more the Calvinist that he.
His comments below gives us a consistent explanation of the biblical
notion that man is justified apart from obedience to the law. It beats
a redactive explanation of same !! that's for sure.
jd
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From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
He also says this:
But the Scots Confession laid the axe to the root of any such movement
when it insisted that we have to spoil ourselves even
of our own regeneration and sanctification as well as
justification. What is "axed" so radically was the notion of
"co-redemption" which in our day has again become so rampant, not only in
the Roman Church, but in Liberal and Evangelical Protestantism,
e.g., the emphasis upon
existential decision as the means whereby
we "make real" for ourselves the kerygma [proclamation] of the New
Testament, which means that in the last resort our salvation depends upon
our own personal or existential decision. That is the exact antithesis of the Reformed doctrine of
election, which rests salvation upon the prior and objective decision of
God in Christ. It is Justification by
Grace alone that guards the Gospel from corruption by "Evangel icals,"
"Liberals," and Romans alike.
So Torrance is also a Calvinist
at heart who is resting in Calvin's "doctrine of election" in spite of all
the big theological words and high talk...
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:43:32 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
In the recent article posted by Lance from Torrance, the theologican
says this:
"Nowhere is this more apparent than in the case of the popular
minister where everything centers on him, and the whole life of the
congregation is built round him. What is that but Protestant
sacerdotalism, sacerdotalism which involves the displacement of the
Humanity of Christ by the humanity of the minister, and the obscuring of
the Person of Christ by the personality of the minister?"
amen. We have here a well worded warning to the mega
church industry that the Christ, His very person, just might
be lost to a pattern of worship that denies opportunities for
authenticity and spontaneous participation by the attendee. It can be argued
that such 'worship services" fly in the face of such passages as
Eph 5:18,19. There is a bonding and a closeness that takes
place in a small group that is not possible in the mega
assemblies.
jd
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