On 10/07/11 13:39 +0200, Albert Cervera i Areny wrote:
> A Diumenge, 10 de juliol de 2011 13:21:25, Cédric Krier va escriure:
> > On 10/07/11 13:11 +0200, Albert Cervera i Areny wrote:
> > > A Diumenge, 10 de juliol de 2011 12:52:58, Cédric Krier va escriure:
> > > > On 10/07/11 12:39 +0200, Albert Cervera i Areny wrote:
> > > > Right now, the translation mechanism gives you the precise place where
> > > > the string is used but not depending on the position (line) where it
> > > > is. Also the gettext syntax just doesn't give you the Model from which
> > > > the string comes.
> > > 
> > > You're right. As I said, if self.raise_user_error() (or equivalent
> > > function) accepted the complete string without pre-declaration it would
> > > do the job for me.
> > 
> > It will break the fact that right now we know exactly from where comes the
> > string and it is used for translation. With a gettext-like method, you
> > loose this and I think it is bad because the same string in English could
> > have different translation in other languages because of the usage
> > context.
> 
> You would with a gettext-like function you would loose that and it wouldn't 
> work, but with a "self.raise_user_error()" function it would work just like 
> now. Except for the way strings are extracted:

No because the script that will extract the strings will not know from which
Model it comes.

> > > > More over, it will require to parse the python file for those string
> > > > instead of just using the python runtime.
> > > 
> > > Of course, my suggestion of raise_user_error() without pre-declaration
> > > would require that too, but I don't see it much of a problem if it helps
> > > developers. After all most of open source projects are already doing
> > > that and there're tools which make it really easy to do it.
> > 
> > This mean the translation process will need 2 steps, one for the
> > translation of the string we know like fields.string, fields.help etc. and
> > one for other translation spreaded in all the code.
> 
> Sure, but I don't see much of a problem here as long as it helps module 
> developers. Do you see important drawbacks with this?

Yes the KISS principle. Two way for the same purpose is bad.

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