Hi Cédric, all,
Am Samstag, den 19.06.2010, 15:06 +0200 schrieb Cédric Krier:
> On 18/06/10 19:29 +0200, Cédric Krier wrote:
> > With the issue1585[1], some questions are raising. I would like to have your
> > opinions on it. So I setup a google moderator questions:
> > http://goo.gl/mod/KvEX
> Guys, you completly fail with this application:
> - Stop creating questions that are comments.
Sorry about my provocation in your 'poll'. For all, yesterday I asked
the question:
"Is it clear, that this poll is a meta poll for final polls or
questions to guide a discussion? Here you do not say 'yes' or 'no'
to answer the question. You say 'yes' or 'no' if you like the
question or find the question is worth to be discussed."
As I can read here[1],
"The service allows the management of feedback from a large number
of people, who can vote for the top questions that they think
should be posed and ask their own."
The key phrase is: "that they think should be posed and ask their own."
So it is neither a poll about direct answers to these questions, nor an
election about our vote for this questions. It is as I said, "a meta
poll for final polls or questions to guide a discussion"
Cédric, with your last emails it seems to me, you change the use of
google moderator to something else I do not clearly understand. Now it
becomes a weak tool for me to 'poll' or elect about Trytons contribution
requirements.
For me you missed some explanations about the change of use of the tool
and its implications. I would like to request some explanations from
you, please.
1. What is your goal with the poll?
2. Did the vote/result legitimate someone to something?
3. Is it to have an informational survey about the opinion of all people
in the internet in some questions without any other meaning or any other
implication?
4. Is it an election about answers of the given questions, which bind us
all to answer these questions in future with the result of the 'poll'?
If I missed something, please clarify.
> - Question must be yes/no or statement that can be approved or not.
> - You can add a comment/response with the link "Post a comment".
> - Ask only question that makes sense.
In the poll you ask:
* Should contributor's email be unique?
* Should contributor's name be real name?
IMHO, both of your questions fail rule 1 and 3. The phrase 'should' is
far away from being able to approve[2]. Even if something 'should', we
will just move the actual discussion to a discussion about the border
cases and exceptions. If we elect, the result makes every future
discussion about this topic much more complicated.
Because of this, both questions and all answers makes no sense to me.
They are misleading and unimportant and trivial for me. If I missed
something, please enlighten me.
In issue1585 I read between the lines, that you in general dislike, when
a company using the Tryton project name pattern
<company_name>@tryton.<top_level_domain>
in contributions. For me this question is much more important then the
other questions.
It is the only important question I find in the whole issue, because it
brings, if not regulated, the risk of distortion of competition and
possibilities of an instrumentalization of a whole community into the
Tryton project. If we get started to discuss this topic, I like to share
my opinion.
> - Ask question linked to the subject "Tryton contribution requirements" and
> not to the application or any thing else.
> So please remove unrelated questions of the poll.
> If it doesn't work, I will stop using this application.
I see no other useful application for google moderator then the main use
described in [1].
If you are searching an election tool, take a look at
http://www.doodle.com/ which mainly targets this topic. Be sure, I
dislike electronic elections a lot, <sarcasm>because I have to obligate
all my social-network friends, family and others to vote for my
opinion</sarcasm>
For me it would be a benefit to stop using this application and other
voting machines, because all discussions drift away from the topics to
methods and operational debates, before they started.
Cheers
Udo Spallek
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Moderator
[2] http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2119.html
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