Hi All, I agree with the fact that we should discuss the issue of using: <company_name>@tryton.<top_level_domain>
for commits. I vote against the practice... and I think there is no relevance for anonymous voting. If anybody has an opinion they should have valid reasons behind it and should be able to cast the vote with name. I request cedk to create a new thread on the tryton-dev mailing list (since it mostly concerns developers) for the vote and manually count the votes from there. Cheers! On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Udo Spallek <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Cédric, all, > > Am Samstag, den 19.06.2010, 15:06 +0200 schrieb Cédric Krier: > > On 18/06/10 19:29 +0200, Cédric Krier wrote: > > > With the issue1585[1], some questions are raising. I would like to have > your > > > opinions on it. So I setup a google moderator questions: > > > http://goo.gl/mod/KvEX > > Guys, you completly fail with this application: > > - Stop creating questions that are comments. > Sorry about my provocation in your 'poll'. For all, yesterday I asked > the question: > "Is it clear, that this poll is a meta poll for final polls or > questions to guide a discussion? Here you do not say 'yes' or 'no' > to answer the question. You say 'yes' or 'no' if you like the > question or find the question is worth to be discussed." > As I can read here[1], > "The service allows the management of feedback from a large number > of people, who can vote for the top questions that they think > should be posed and ask their own." > The key phrase is: "that they think should be posed and ask their own." > So it is neither a poll about direct answers to these questions, nor an > election about our vote for this questions. It is as I said, "a meta > poll for final polls or questions to guide a discussion" > > Cédric, with your last emails it seems to me, you change the use of > google moderator to something else I do not clearly understand. Now it > becomes a weak tool for me to 'poll' or elect about Trytons contribution > requirements. > For me you missed some explanations about the change of use of the tool > and its implications. I would like to request some explanations from > you, please. > 1. What is your goal with the poll? > 2. Did the vote/result legitimate someone to something? > 3. Is it to have an informational survey about the opinion of all people > in the internet in some questions without any other meaning or any other > implication? > 4. Is it an election about answers of the given questions, which bind us > all to answer these questions in future with the result of the 'poll'? > > If I missed something, please clarify. > > > - Question must be yes/no or statement that can be approved or not. > > - You can add a comment/response with the link "Post a comment". > > - Ask only question that makes sense. > In the poll you ask: > * Should contributor's email be unique? > * Should contributor's name be real name? > IMHO, both of your questions fail rule 1 and 3. The phrase 'should' is > far away from being able to approve[2]. Even if something 'should', we > will just move the actual discussion to a discussion about the border > cases and exceptions. If we elect, the result makes every future > discussion about this topic much more complicated. > Because of this, both questions and all answers makes no sense to me. > They are misleading and unimportant and trivial for me. If I missed > something, please enlighten me. > > In issue1585 I read between the lines, that you in general dislike, when > a company using the Tryton project name pattern > <company_name>@tryton.<top_level_domain> > in contributions. For me this question is much more important then the > other questions. > > It is the only important question I find in the whole issue, because it > brings, if not regulated, the risk of distortion of competition and > possibilities of an instrumentalization of a whole community into the > Tryton project. If we get started to discuss this topic, I like to share > my opinion. > > > - Ask question linked to the subject "Tryton contribution requirements" > and > > not to the application or any thing else. > > So please remove unrelated questions of the poll. > > If it doesn't work, I will stop using this application. > I see no other useful application for google moderator then the main use > described in [1]. > > If you are searching an election tool, take a look at > http://www.doodle.com/ which mainly targets this topic. Be sure, I > dislike electronic elections a lot, <sarcasm>because I have to obligate > all my social-network friends, family and others to vote for my > opinion</sarcasm> > > For me it would be a benefit to stop using this application and other > voting machines, because all discussions drift away from the topics to > methods and operational debates, before they started. > > Cheers > > Udo Spallek > > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Moderator > [2] http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2119.html > > > -- > [email protected] mailing list > -- Sharoon Thomas Business Analyst & Open Source ERP Consultant CEO @ http://openlabs.co.in -- [email protected] mailing list
