On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Christian Haugan Toldnes wrote: > Since Viper & tsl-initrd use evms to activate the evms-specific block > devices and Anaconda & mkinitrd doesn't, you will need to change your > raid system completely, using different block devices, or patch mkinitrd > to handle both kind of systems. The latter is the correct way of fixing > this bug, since it's supposed to be upgradeable from 3.0.
This is exactly the point. To quote from a mail coming (officially) from @trustix.org on this very list: "technically swup should work without any problems, as simple upgrading to 3.0.5 was considered as part of this release." Hell, is there no QA anymore? Software-raid isnt so unheared of in the outside world (even though i personally dont like it), so this is one thing you have to test before a public beta. And yes, i know what i'm talking about, having worked as a member of cloud-dev mainly testing and checking for compatibility, and also having worked as a developer and responsible for QA for a certain linux based firewall solution. > On a side note: > If they hadn't thrown out the Viper developers, they would have a > matured working Viper installer by now, instead they went forward to a > new version of anaconda, without having people available that knew the > differences between the two installers. Well, its always the same. "geez we dont need you expensive high-headed geeks, we have those guys from $insertyourfavoritecheapcountryhere, they can do the same work for half the money and are still happy about it!" > The easier (and best, since the deveoper resources are limited) approach > would have been to spend 6 months creating a nice swup/yum/apt-able way > of converting a TSL installation to CentOS.. ;p New name would of course > be: "Trustix Just-as-Secure Linux"... Thats what i did with a appliance system. The switch from TSL2.2 based to CentOS 4.3 took about 1.5 days so far, the biggest hazard was to get those AVM drivers into a nice RPM (geez. with -O0 it worked instantly... with the system wide -O flag they throw a nice kernel panic when plugging in the AVM cards). And switching as in: its completely done. I expect maybe one day of QA and some minor fixes, plus some time for teaching the guys actually implementing those appliances about the differences and the new stuff. And with yum there is no need (sorry Mr. C. :-)) for swup. > Ohh, and no.. TSL didn't really need a new installer, but needed > something to make it different from the other distributions. Well.. We > still have 'secure' in the middle of the distribution name, so that must > mean the distribution is more secure than the distributions that doesn't. :D Well, TSL is not very secure anymore. Or better said: not more or less secure than most of the other distros out there. If someone from Comodo or Trustix want to say otherwise, please, be my guest :-) I'm looking forward to it. > I really need to get something to eat.. :p Just head breakfast. > And a beer.. And get laid.. Think it's time to reinstall Ubuntu, just to > test the new, graphical installer. I've heard it's nice.. ;) Nope, no bear tonight, have to drive home.... :-) Danny -- Q: Gentoo is too hard to install = http://www.cyberdelia.de and I feel like whining. = [EMAIL PROTECTED] A: Please see /dev/null. = (from the gentoo installer FAQ) = \o/ _______________________________________________ tsl-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.trustix.org/mailman/listinfo/tsl-discuss
