Few RFCs are standards track.

IETF transport focuses on maintaining its existing standards; that's
my point. It's not really set up for experimental work not directly 
related to those standards.

Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/


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From: Joe Touch [[email protected]]
Sent: 06 July 2013 19:33
To: Wood L  Dr (Electronic Eng)
Cc: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Draft agenda for the IETF-87 TSV Area meeting uploaded

And where in your sequence did a standard appear? Outside a wg?

On Jul 6, 2013, at 2:20 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well, that's the wrong sequence, too. IANA can allocate numbers at draft 
> stage long before RFC - as it did for Saratoga http://saratoga.sf.net
>
> But even your sequence says 'tell the IETF', not 'participate in an IETF WG 
> with all the drones'.
>
> Since QUIC is already deployed worldwide, I am reminded of King Canute.
>
> Lloyd Wood
> http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Joe Touch [[email protected]]
> Sent: 06 July 2013 08:03
> To: Wood L  Dr (Electronic Eng)
> Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Draft agenda for the IETF-87 TSV Area meeting uploaded
>
> On Jul 6, 2013, at 12:15 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> First deploy, then tell the IETF about it, and let the IETF put the 
>> documentation into
>> the preferred 1970s ASCII format.
>
> Unless drone revoked RFC 2780, that's the wrong sequence.  First develop and 
> test, then tell the IETF in a standards- track RFC, then get that RFC 
> approved, then get a transport number, then deploy.
>
> I don't mind general info about stuff in the area meetings, but feedback 
> requires participation, which requires a draft. And deployment of transports 
> requires approved standards to get assigned numbers.
>
> Joe

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