On Jul 6, 2013, at 2:52 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Few RFCs are standards track. But only those qualify for new transport numbers. > IETF transport focuses on maintaining its existing standards; that's > my point. It's not really set up for experimental work not directly > related to those standards. Early experimental work can come through the IRTF but new standards track transports can easily start in tsv wg. That wg isn't just for changes to existing standards. Joe > > Lloyd Wood > http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/ > > > ________________________________________ > From: Joe Touch [[email protected]] > Sent: 06 July 2013 19:33 > To: Wood L Dr (Electronic Eng) > Cc: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Draft agenda for the IETF-87 TSV Area meeting uploaded > > And where in your sequence did a standard appear? Outside a wg? > > On Jul 6, 2013, at 2:20 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Well, that's the wrong sequence, too. IANA can allocate numbers at draft >> stage long before RFC - as it did for Saratoga http://saratoga.sf.net >> >> But even your sequence says 'tell the IETF', not 'participate in an IETF WG >> with all the drones'. >> >> Since QUIC is already deployed worldwide, I am reminded of King Canute. >> >> Lloyd Wood >> http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/ >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: Joe Touch [[email protected]] >> Sent: 06 July 2013 08:03 >> To: Wood L Dr (Electronic Eng) >> Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Draft agenda for the IETF-87 TSV Area meeting uploaded >> >> On Jul 6, 2013, at 12:15 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> First deploy, then tell the IETF about it, and let the IETF put the >>> documentation into >>> the preferred 1970s ASCII format. >> >> Unless drone revoked RFC 2780, that's the wrong sequence. First develop and >> test, then tell the IETF in a standards- track RFC, then get that RFC >> approved, then get a transport number, then deploy. >> >> I don't mind general info about stuff in the area meetings, but feedback >> requires participation, which requires a draft. And deployment of transports >> requires approved standards to get assigned numbers. >> >> Joe
