on 7/5/01 6:19 AM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jon Stevens wrote:
>> 
>> on 7/3/01 1:51 PM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Tomcat 4.0b5
>> 
>> Try CVS HEAD of Tomcat...
> 
> I really don't want 50 millian CVS HEAD projects on my machine to build
> a current TDK.

Disk space is cheap...I saw you whine about this on the turbine-dev
list...what is your real problem with having the files on your disk again?

Me personally, I have about 50 projects checked out from all over the place
sitting in one directory. Works great.

> Is Turbine so dependant on the bleeding edge that it can't
> work with released projects?

Tomcat 4.0b5 is buggy and there is nothing we can do about it other than
tell you to use a newer version.

>  Will it work with Tomcat 3.3?  I know that
> works well and is performant.

Of course Turbine will work with it. Turbine uses *nothing* in the Servlet
API other than 2.1 methods and nothing special at all.

> Turbine build process requires several projects to be checked out on my
> machine

No it doesn't.

>, and Tomcat almost doubles it.  It is a royal PITA.
>  I just want
> a simple "build.bat" and "build.sh" with all required jars included in
> the proper locations.  The Turbine and Tomcat build processes are a real
> pain.

Turbine's build process requires you to install Ant. That is it.

Tomcat's build process is slightly harder because you have to download a few
.jar files and properly edit a build.properties file, but it is MUCH easier
than it used to be. Also, complaining about Tomcat here doesn't do you any
good.

> I need a solution that works with _released_ products, and could possibly
> be used with other Servlet Containers than Apache Tomcat.  Can Turbine
> be _easily_ used in other Servlet Containers?

Turbine has no special requirements on a servlet container.

> Also, is Turbine considered alpha due to API upheaval?  Deprecation is a
> tool, but it seems like everything on the site is outdated, and Turbine
> is a moving target.

You can download 2.1 and use that. It is a released version. Updates between
2.1 and 2.1.x will be backwards compatible according to this document:

    <http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/deprecation.html>

thanks,

-jon


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