on 1/30/00 7:12 PM, Jim Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> <rant>

Rants are lame. Please keep them off this list. They don't help anyone.

> Well, some documentation would be helpfull, and if I ddn't have my hands full
> with other stuff I'd start ... and yes, I know I could look at Jyve and
> see how it works ...

I agree. What documentation would you like to see other than what is already
there? The Javadocs are fairly complete. Jyve is an excellent example code
base. The FSD (docs/fsd.html) goes over the general scope. What more would
you like?

> Also, I was planning to use Turbine for a client project, but since my project
> started in October last year I couldn't reliably use Turbine ...

We started a project around last October using Turbine without any major
issues.

> I'm also interested in seeing a development path to a Java2 environment
> for Turbine and also JServ, which I know you can conjole it to work
> but I'd prefer a stable environment.

What exactly does that mean ("development path to a Java2 environment")?
Turbine runs just fine in a Java2 environment.

> But then, I hear you say, use Tomcat and Jakarta, etc for Java2 platform,

Jakarta is a project. Tomcat is a servlet engine. I never said use Tomcat
for Java2. If it helps you any, I have never personally used Tomcat at all,
period. I still use Apache JServ 1.1.

> well, it is also in development stage and In don't know if Turbine will
> work with them since there are some JServ dependent features in
> Turbine (what what I've read anyway) ...

I have no clue as to what you are talking about. There is nothing in JServ
that Turbine is directly dependent on. We have everything that may be
dependent already copied within the Turbine CVS tree so there are no issues
with that since the classloader will find those classes.

Turbine will run just fine with any JSDK 2.0 or higher (including Tomcat)
servlet engine. Period.

Tomcat also is not Java2 dependent. Neither is Turbine. Both will run just
fine in a Java2 environment. I would use Java2 only because the JVM's are
better than Java1.

-jon




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