On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> I would actually go for making WM the default. In other words, essentially,
> we are dropping ECS as the default for WM. That is cool with me.

I'm for this, but what about the dragging WM licensing issues?

> > These changes together would bring us a whole lot closer to Dave's idea
> > of a Turbine devkit. A new developer could download a Turbine tarball,
> > build the war-webmacro target, set up their DB, point Tomcat at the
> > turbine-war-webmacro directory and hey presto! a working Turbine
> > install. The use of templates for all default screens means the new
> > developer can start customising stuff straight away.
> 
> +1. That is entirely needed.

I agree!

> Note that this is a simpler version of what I really want to see which is a
> downloadable package that includes Tomcat, Turbine and some Java based RDBMS
> (ie: instantdb) all packaged together so that you execute tomcat/bin/startup
> and off you go.

I've also looked at using hSQL which is even easier to setup then
instantDB and allows you to upload data straight to a production system.
 
> I would like it if you or someone would come up with a nice default Turbine
> look and feel for the header/footer/nav stuff.

And a nice logo!!!

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dave
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