Justin Wells wrote:
>
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2000 at 11:44:05PM -0700, Jon Stevens wrote:
> > > I would like to put WM under the
> > >> ASF and make it an ASF project. We would then integrate the good ideas
> > >> from Velocity and have a really good project. Alterantely Velocity could
> > >> remain separate, I don't care.
> >
> > Ok, so I will be the one who is continually consistent here and say this:
> >
> > You are welcome to join the Velocity project and improve it. -1 on your
> > proposal to have WebMacro become a ASF project. The reason is that I don't
> > see why the Jakarta project should have two identical template engines.
<snip>
OK. Just my unbiased comments on this whole thing:
- A fork should be avoided at all costs. I don't know if this has
already happened but take this into consideration.
on 8/26/2000 11:12 PM, "Justin Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do need WebMacro to survive intact as a code base with its current
> interfaces, plug points, and features. I depend on all of that in the
> projects I work on, and so do a lot of people.
- don't take this the wrong way. But this is your problem. Code to an
interface not an implementation. IMO Velocity and WebMacro should have
simliar (hopefully indentical) interfaces (which even though you guys
don't like it... Servlet/JSP does). You can't put a technical
requirement like this into a political proposal because once it is under
the ASF we could vote to have the whole architecture changed. EX. Look
at the Jakarta/Turbine code since its conception.
- Based on the evidence I currently have (and I don't want to offend
anyone here). Both Velocity and Webmacro should be dropped in favor of
a unified community.(IMO) (IE new project). Once this is under the
Jakarta/ASF (and voting rules apply) the best from both worlds can be
merged. I would recommend a new name and keeping velocity and webmacro
in the same CVS and then migrate to the next generation. I realize
there have been politics here but (jon) I think the WM community is
listening and whatever problems there were I think voting rules will fix
it. correct?
Anyway. I hate it when these things happen. :(
Kevin
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