Jon, for some reason you seem to actually hate me. I have no idea why,
but whatever your issue with me is appears to go far beyond simple
licensing issues.
I urge you to put that aside. Maybe you should even meet me in person
while I'm here in the area and find out what I'm like in person. That's
an offer open to anyone on this list, by the way. (I'm in Palo Alto
for awhile).
It's dumb to have two Apache licensed projects that do the same thing.
There's no doubt we can go on and compete for users over the next few
years, but it'll be really dumb. We'll be able to use some of each
others code, but as our designs deviate, not a lot.
We have a chance right now to fix this. I've pretty much said I'm
open do doing whatever it takes to fix it.
Here are my needs:
-- There has to be a verson of WM that supports all of the
interfaces that WM has now. It has to be mature, stable,
reliable, and based on the existing code base.
That's it. You, the ASF, and the two lists can decide the rest. I
feel responsible for the people using WebMacro and I want to make
sure that whatever happens they are supported in what they are
doing right now. Not some day. Today.
Pretty open ended offer. I find it hard to see how you can reject
it, unless you are operating out of your feelings towards me rather
than what is good for the community.
The community comes first.
Is the ASF about raiding other open source software projects and
attempting to undermine the hard working users who depend on them?
Or is it about strengthening the community?
The fastest way to get a mature, scalable, robust, proven template
engine into the ASF's tree is to adopt WebMacro. Not doing that will
leave me competing with you, which is stupid. You may think there
will be a winner, but there will only be losers.
Most of all, the "working dog" programmers you love so much will
suffer by the wasted duplication of effort, confusion, and infighting
in the community they'd like to be a part of.
The ASF has a decision to make: is it a destructive or a constructive
organization? And is it in favour of, or against, collaboration?
Justin
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