On Jun 28, 2007, at 9:21 PM, Noah Gift wrote:

>
>
> On 6/28/07, iain duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2007-28-06 at 18:11 +0200, Florent Aide wrote:
> > Hum...
> >
> > +0 on this. I do a _lot_ of plain SA in my work hours and I also  
> do a
> > lot of plain SA in TG or other for home grown projects and I would
> > expect TG to come with plain SA by default.
> >
> > The SA docs are really good and the expressiveness of plain SA is  
> sooo
> > excellent... We can always have an elexir optional switch on the
> > command line...
> >
> > As a newcomer to any project boasting to support SA I would  
> expect the
> > project to have a plain SA mode and not "hide" it inside some  
> wrapper.
> >
> > If a lot of people prefer to have elexir as default, so be it. But
> > then at least provide plain active_mapper SA as an option.
>
>
> My opinion on this is that we should have a LOT more switches  
> available
> on tg-admin quickstart with a nice write up showing us what happens.
> This should include things like changing what parts of the code are
> enabled by default. For example, an awful lot of code starts off
> commented out. If we use -s, I think it's safe to say that  
> importing the
> model should start active. Perhaps if we use -w, widgets and  
> validators
> start imported, etc.
>
> A big selling point of tg is how easy it is to get up and running the
> first time, but this has been getting worse, not better, with all the
> new features as not all starting defaults are sensible anymore. ( I  
> just
> taught my girlfriend TG so I have been noticing this a lot lately! )
>
> Iain
>
> I volunteered to help with making a our sweet command line tool,  
> with whoever wants to help.  I think we can subclass paste though  
> and it for the dirty work.  Would it be too crazy to make separate  
> mailing lists for different sub-projects?  Or is that too nuts.

I think it´s better to keep the command-line subproject discussion in  
the trunk mailing list for now since it'll be very closely tied to TG  
anyway. Another reason, more presonal hence more subjective, is that  
I'm already having a hard time keeping up with all the TG2 related  
discussion going on in 4 different mailing lists, 3 blogs and reddit. ;)

Alberto
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