Hi,

>I have always found the toolbox to be more of a neat toy than something
>very useful. In addition, I don't like the fact that it installs with
>my production applications, since I really don't want something like
>CatWalk available from my production application.
>  
>
Yes, I agree. I wonder if what we want is to just have the turbogears 
package install the bare essentials. We can provide as well a package 
like "turbogears-all" that gets extra like toolbox. The tutorials can 
tell people to install turbogears-all, while on production servers 
people just install the essentials.

Paul

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