Hi all,

Florent Aide schrieb:
> I created a ticket #1992 in our trac and begun work on it. Attached is
> a screen grab of how it looks like on my machine. Sorry for the file
> size but trac did not accept my attachement.
> The text is not finalized and Ken is working on it right now. Please
> don't hesitate to comment, propose, improve whatever...
> 
> The most important thing for me is not that we keep this design or do
> something radically different... It is that TG gets a new quickstart
> template that make people like their first sight of it.

Florent, thanks for getting this started. I'm all for having a modern
design for the quickstart templates and I like the idea of basing it on
a free, open source web design, since this helps to promote the idea of
open source and gives more visibility to all projects involved. I also
like the overall look of the design chosen, but I also have some
comments and suggestions for improvement:

1) I think we should keep the key elements of the visual "brand" for
TurboGears, namely the blue/golden/white color combination and the gear
logo. We could update them slightly to distinguish the design more from
the TG 1.0 one, but the recognition factor should stay. A great example
of the way to handle is, IMHO, is how the desktop design of a default
Ubuntu install evolved over the progressing versions.

The gear logo could go where the picture of the chinese statue is
currently, for example.

2) I don't like the page background with the wooden pattern. It reminds
me of hobby rooms or kid bedrooms from the seventies ;) I think a simple
 medium-dark gradient (maybe grey) would look better.

3) We should ditch the ugly favicon as well. Depending on the color
scheme for the page, we could use the favicon from trac.turbogears.org
maybe, or an adapted version. I think I have the Gimp file for that
somewhere still.

4) We should not have any elements on the page that do nothing. For
example the links under the "TurboGears works on your machine" section
("Printer friendly", etc.) or the search field.

For the search field I thought of integrating a custom TG Google search
engine, like this one for TG 2:

http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=013833837327090257708%3Af0q5ocbisby

Maybe we could even include a template with a search form page?

I also went ahead and linked the items in the top nav bar to the
sections on the welcome page and the contact item to the "GettingHelp"
page on the wiki.


5) I think the time & date display in the "Learn more" box is a little
unmotivated and misplaced. I think it's main purpose was always to show
that your TG server is really running and a page reload updates the time
& date, so you know everything is running fine.

My suggestion would be that instead we add an extra template for an
"About" page, that gives more information about the current TG
installation and the system it is running on. The information on this
page could include:

- Hostname
- OS ("uname -a" or similar info)
- Python version
- Python path
- System path
- The info from the "Toolbox/Info" page
- Active settings from turbogears.config (minus DB passwords?)

Maybe also:

- Environment
- Request info
  - Headers
  - Request params
  - Cookies
  - Sessions info

Maybe this info should come from a mountable controller in the main
turbogears package instead of being included in the quickstart code.


So much for now, probably more comments later.


Chris

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