Hi,

> Scenario: I'm a brand new user to TurboGears. Why should I care about
> it? What can it do to make my life better?

I've used TG for a couple of days. I'v been very disturbed by the fact
that there are two different templates for the doc.
This one  http://turbogears.org/2.1/docs/ and this one 
http://turbogears.org/2.0/docs/.
Actually I red almost only on the second one, because the
Documentation link of the homepage points to it and this template is
much more readable than the first one.
I realized later that I was reading deprecated docs.
But the fact that there are two templates out there for documentation
is very very disturbing for a new user.

Emmanuel

On 12 oct, 12:28, werner <[email protected]> wrote:
>   Christoph and Michael,
>
> On 11/10/2010 23:06, Christoph Zwerschke wrote:
> ...
>
>
>
> >>> You can have a sticky sidebar with the Sphinx default template by
> >>> setting
> >>> the stickysidebar option. Unfortunately, there is no such option for
> >>> the top
> >>> and bottom bars, so the top links and bread crumbs move away when
> >>> scrolling.
> >>> Not good. Seens very few docs have sticky navigation, maybe because of
> >>> compatibility issues with various browsers. We would probably need
> >>> to invent
> >>> something on our own.
>
> >> My only object to having more floating sections is real estate. As it
> >> stands, we're going to have something on the side, taking up screen
> >> space. If we add something sticky to the top and/or bottom, we're
> >> going to lose more screen real estate. I don't think I'm in favor of
> >> that at all.
>
> > It's not really such a big problem in these times of wide screens any
> > more. Usually you have to make the page narrower anyway because text
> > with long lines is not good for readability. But I agree it can still
> > be a problem if you go several levels down, and the section titles get
> > indented and longer, then either you need a really wide sidebar or the
> > entries will we wrapped to several lines. Plus, it creates more noise
> > on the screen. More whitespace makes makes it more pleasing to read.
>
> > So maybe we should completely dismiss the sidebar, and use clean,
> > small tocs at the top, and properly working breadcrumbs instead. The
> > SQLAlchemy docs are a good example:http://www.sqlalchemy.org/docs/
>
> I use SA and while the documentation is incredible, the lack of the side
> bar is something I miss. On my monitors (17 inch notebook and 22 inch
> desktop) I have about 300 - 400 pixels white space on both sides with
> the SA doc - space for a sidebar :-) .
>
> Very much like Christoph's sample, with the exception that I would put
> the sidebar on the right side, i.e. out of the way but it is still there
> when I want/need to search use the TOC to jump else where. Not sure if
> the top and bottom need to be sticky too, and the actual documentation
> section doesn't need to be as wide as it is. Maybe similar to Sphinx but
> with sticky sidebar -http://sphinx.pocoo.org/tutorial.html?
>
> Just my 0.02�
> Werner

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