On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 02:07:35PM -0000, Thomas  Weholt wrote:
> 
> I've been a fan of Turbogears since the first announcement, but
> recently I've become more and more sceptical about using it. It's ok to
> build a framework on third-party modules, but in turbogears this is
> beginning to look crazy. Just look at the list of packages listed at
> http://www.turbogears.org/download/index.html. I don't know how many of
> these you absolutely need to get turbogears running, but all my
> attempts at downloading the latest release have failed lately because
> of some missing third-party module or something that won't compile.
> This was no problem in the start of the project. It was a brilliant
> showcase of good use of setuptools. If there's a way around this, to
> download just the core modules you need to get started it should be
> better documented on the homepage. And as more and more users switch to
> python 2.5 turbogears lags behind because alot of the third-party
> modules aren't 2.5-compatible.

I believe TG *can* be modularized. But can this be done in backward-compatible
way?

> I've also tried to keep track of the progress of Turbogears using the
> trac.turbogears.org-site, but the roadmap shows little or no progress
> lately. Are there being done any serious work on the core issues?
> 
> Sorry, if this seems like just complaining, and you can say "Why don't
> you dive into the code, fix the bugs, contribute patches etc." all you
> want. I've been sitting on the fence waiting for turbogears to reach
> 1.0, be easy to download and use and then suggest it as an alternative
> to .NET-based solutions at my workplace. My first encounter with
> turbogears was love at first sight so I really want turbogears to be a
> success.
> 
> I wish my timeschedule allowed me more time to work on projects like
> this, then maybe I could really contribute and help solve some of the
> issues I've mentioned here. Many of you guys probably have the same
> problem. But anyway, keep up the good work. I *do* appreciate the work
> you do, even if this message might make you think I don't.

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