On Mon, 2007-25-06 at 20:17 +0000, JeffRo wrote:
> Thanks Alaa.  I will try sqlalchemy and genshi.  I'm not far enough
> down a path with either sqlobject or kid to feel indebted to using
> those going forward.

I would second that suggestion. If you start down the road with TG using
Genshi, SA, and maybe even Tosca Widgets and Routes, nothing you learn
will be wasted regardless of whether you switch to Pylons or the
projects merge or whatever. 

SA alone is so great I wouldn't consider anything that did not support
it. 

Iain

> 
> As an "outsider" I come from a background where I started with ASP,
> hacked some CGI, played with PHP and watched others play with Rails.
> Nowadays, things like asp.net and j2ee and jsp and the like pay the
> bills, but it's like being a packrat with weights.  Having seen a lot
> of different stuff, TG sure seems like a nice set of trade-offs that
> work for me.
> 
> I'm largely a fish out of water in the pythonic world; I like it here,
> just not familiar with the surroundings as of yet.  :-)
> 
> thanks again for the comments,
> jr
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 25, 12:29 pm, "Alaa Salman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As the originator of that thread, i can tell you this.
> >
> > Do not be mislead by it(the thread). TurboGears(in my opinion) does not have
> > a lack of direction. The experiment that the thread referred to is simply
> > that, an experiment. You've probably heard that TG and Pylons have agreed to
> > cooperate better, and this is the first thing that they're trying. Also note
> > that the experiment was aimed at TG 2.0 which is still a long time away. It
> > is only to help with the future direction and in making better decisions.
> >
> > Although i do think about it, i have no regrets and would recommend TG to
> > anybody(as well as use it in my own work where ever i can). I can simply
> > tell you to try and use sqlalchemy and Genshi(which can be used easily even
> > right now) just so that you'd be better prepared for the 1.1 release which
> > should be soon.( i also posted a simple tutorial that might help with that)
> >
> > Always pick the right tool for the job, and i am sure that everybody on this
> > list would agree. If you're project is best served by TG, then i highly
> > recommend it. If not, then you have to search. And as always, anything you
> > need, please feel free to ask on this mailing list.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alaa Salman
> >
> > On 6/25/07, JeffRo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I just read the other thread about the crossroads where the TG
> > > community finds itself (http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears/
> > > browse_thread/thread/
> > > 1ca94fbf44c69050/77177ca67b491355#77177ca67b491355) and am trying to
> > > make a decision about my own project.
> >
> > > I just started with TG and am progressively getting up to speed with
> > > it.  I'm using TG with SQLObject and Kid and Mochikit, just as the
> > > site and book suggest.  I can see why others have expressed opinions
> > > about confusion with the platform, though I've never seen a best-of-
> > > breed stack not have to deal with the issue of explaining
> > > integration.  Lack of documentation is an addressable issue; lack of
> > > direction is another thing entirely.
> >
> > > I consider myself a newbie on this stack, so I'm looking for some
> > > aggregate guidance (not a sales pitch): do I proceed with my project
> > > on TG 1.0, do I port to Pylons, or do I find something else until
> > > there's better progress?
> >
> > > thx,
> > > jr
> 
> 
> > 


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