Ant was just trying to be helpful by gauging what people would like
to use IRC for, although I also have to say I didn't interpret
Jeremy's previous mail to be advocating a ban on IRC.
I think there has been a lot of heated discussion on the list lately,
and it would probably be good for us all to "chill out" a bit and not
take things to extremes...
That said, I find IRC chats useful as long as substantive discussions
and all decisions of import take place on the list. I like how the
chats provide an unstructured forum to ask quick questions and
communicate. I don't think we need the overhead of having an
agenda,"deciding" what gets discussed, or time boxing topics (as long
as people have an equal opportunity to talk). I also don't see a
problem if someone wants to send a note to the list saying they would
like to discuss a particular topic so people can prepare ahead of time.
Jim
On Jul 5, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
On 7/5/06, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Are you saying you'd prefer not to participate, or do you want us
all to
stop having the weekly chat?
Ant, please, that's not what I said at all.
I said that, IMO (for what that's worth), I see the main benefit of
IRC is its use as tool to help reach consensus when discussions on the
mailing list bog down. Using IRC in that manner does not require a
scheduled meeting.
As pointed out on the incubator thread, having a scheduled meeting can
act as a deterrant to participation. For example, one reason that I am
reluctant to join in some other IRC meetings is that they occur at
5:30AM my time and my desire to participate does not exceed my desire
for sleep.
As Jim pointed out here, people often have other commitments that may
impact their ability to participate - IIRC he cited travel issues.
Being async, email does not have those problems which is why it is the
preferred form of communication at the ASF.
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Jeremy
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