On 7/5/06, Jeremy Boynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Jul 5, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
>
> My proposal is not to merge M1 and the core2 sandbox. I am
> proposing to start a new fresh code stream and build the runtime
> through baby steps. We may be able to reuse some pieces of existing
> code, but more important is to engage our community in this
> exercise and integrate the new ideas that will emerge from this.
>

I don't believe the two issues are necessarily coupled. Quite a few
members of the community are engaged on the sandbox code already and
we could work with you to improve that rather having to throw
everything out and start over with all new ideas.

+1 on improving the sandbox code -- it seems to me that there's a
certain mininum amount of code that needs to exist to really kickstart
a community-based solution to a problem of this scope, and I have a
hard time envisioning how starting a fresh code stream at this point
would result in anything noticeably smaller/simpler/more
comprehensible than what's already there in Core2.

> Here's an example where I'm struggling with both M1 and the core2
> sandbox and thinking that we can do better if we start with a new
> fresh stream.

I don't know the Core2 code well enough to mount a cogent technical
reply to these concerns off the top of my head -- my perspective is
simply that the best way to address such issues is to raise them here
in the community and discuss/prototype possible approaches in the
context of the existing code streams.

My experience has been that such discussions work much better in the
context of something functioning -- so before deciding to start (yet)
again, I'm hoping we can work to evolve what's already in svn.  I'm
able to regularly spend time on this project, but not near the
full-time level of some folks here.  For me, the Core2 code base has
been much more accessible and maps more naturally to my understanding
of the spec so far.. on that basis, if there's a desire to do
something differently, I'd very much like to see it made obvious how
that couldn't be accomodated in the context of Core2 before we hit the
reset button.

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