On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Joe Hass <[email protected]> wrote: > > Donz: Speaking as a white male who works in a primarily white male > industry (advertising), I can say this with absolute, drop-dead > certainty about your opinion as to what defines a "hostile work > environment": > > You are completely and unequivocally wrong. And I don't mean that in > the smarmy, Sheldon Cooper-smug way. I mean it in the > staring-at-you-as-if-you-just-farted-in-front-of-the-Queen way. ... > As long as there are careers and industries and jobs that sound > "cool," there will be bosses who will use their power as keys to the > castle and whisper networks to get what the hell they want. > > I strongly advise you to not pursue that line of argument.
I'm going to stand up for Donz because, based on his posts to this board, he seems to be a thinking, feeling human being capable of using sympathy or empathy as the situation calls for it. You should not simply dismiss his take on the situation because he is not a woman. A while ago, I had someone tell me, until I had children of my own, I could not render an opinion about children. Such statements are incredibly dismissive. One does not need to have been a slave to know slavery is wrong. Donz doesn't need to be a woman to know what would constitute a hostile work environment. If you have a brain and a heart, you can see it even if you haven't personally experienced it. As I've stated before, the gender inequality in television is expansive, and I would go so far as to say that, with the possible exception of shows produced for or by Oprah, EVERY television studio is a potentially hostile work environment for women. But since women have a brain and a heart, they know that beforehand. The question is how much can a reasonable person, male or female, be expected to take. If you see someone else gaining ground by sleeping with her boss, it is obnoxious. But, if it is not ground you could reasonably have expected to gain yourself, that situation hardly constitutes hostility. That was the point Donz seemed to be trying to make. The circumstances as outlined, that of an outside observer who happens to be female, don't equate to hostility. And, as I've stated before, fair or unfair, anyone of any gender who complains about their boss in Hollywood will be blacklisted from the industry. Unless the boss is named Dick Clark, in which case the gloves are always off. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
