Perhaps the point though is that even a failed attempt at interviewing a
philosopher (not that I grant Kevin's implication that it was failed) is so
much better than yet another wealthy beautiful person telling us about their
Italian Vacation or bitching about their 5 Million dollar beach house
renovation.


On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 6:03 PM, David Bruggeman <[email protected]> wrote:

> FWIW, the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy entry on Moral Particularism.
>
> http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/moral-particularism/
>
> Where Craig succeeded with having an hour-long conversation with Stephen
> Fry came in part from a familiarity with him, even though he didn't know
> precisely what would be discussed.  It also seemed as though Craig and his
> producers did a bit of homework for bits of it.
>
> With Prof. Dancy, Craig was learning as he went along.  With philosophy (at
> least with my exposure to the philosophy of science and technology), it
> doesn't lead to the first discussion being a real discussion.  Starting from
> scratch in an area of philosophy where you have to disassemble ingrained
> patterns of thinking (yeah, I'm not narrowing things that much) requires a
> hell of a lot more time than what they had last night.
>
> From here it gets really philosophically dorky, at least for a TV list.
>
> It didn't help that - from what I can tell - that the distinction between
> moral relativism and moral particularism is pretty damn subtle.  Where the
> former makes claims against the universality of moral principles in the
> sense of a sliding value scale, the latter argues against the universality
> of those principles in an explanatory sense - why one does a particular
> thing or why one considers an action moral.  Put another way moral
> relativism is an issue of relative application of moral principles, and
> moral particularism questions the possibility of This is part of why Dancy
> resisted definitions.  As he mentioned in his example of lending a hand to
> the guy stealing car stereos, helping someone else may be a moral thing to
> do in one instance and an immoral thing to do in another.  So Dancy and his
> fellow particularlists resist definitions or moral principles because if
> they are applied consistently in all cases you run into all sorts of
> problems.  If they aren't applied consistently, they're kind of useless as
> principles or definitions.
>
> Mentally, most of us would not pay much mind to the exceptions to the rules
> or principles we consider to guide our actions.  But when philosophy is
> geared toward establishing rigorous systems of thinking, those exceptions
> can vex them mightily.
>
> I don't know if C-Ferg is as serious about the invitation back as he was
> about the initial invite.  As much as he'd need more time in a single show,
> I think single segments are perhaps more ratings-friendly (though the
> Peabody folks will consider themselves prescient).
>
> David
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Kevin M. <[email protected]>
>
> That said, the philosopher wasn't to my liking, and he didn't need to
> go on for 13 minutes the way he did. Once he said that morality is all
> relative, and then refused to define anything -- well, then the
> remaining 12 minutes could have been better served by Wavey the
> Crocodile (or a test pattern). Craig made the most of it, but Craig
> had to work very hard to get through the segment.
> --
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
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