You're quite right.

I was focusing more on trying to explain what I think moral particularism is 
than expressing whether or not I appreciated the attempt at late night 
explanation.  I do, but I'm also an unapologetic fan of Ferguson and his show.  
He set the bar high, and scraped his back on it.  Nice jump all the same.  An 
hour with a relatively unknown quantity would have been perhaps too much of a 
risk, at least his first time at it.

Dvaid




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From: PGage <[email protected]>

Perhaps the point though is that even a failed attempt at interviewing a 
philosopher (not that I grant Kevin's implication that it was failed) is so 
much better than yet another wealthy beautiful person telling us about their 
Italian Vacation or bitching about their 5 Million dollar beach house 
renovation.



On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 6:03 PM, David Bruggeman <[email protected]> wrote:

FWIW, the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy entry on Moral Particularism.
>
>http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/moral-particularism/
>
>Where Craig succeeded with having an hour-long conversation with Stephen Fry 
>came in part from a familiarity with him, even though he didn't know precisely 
>what would be discussed.  It also seemed as though Craig and his producers did 
>a bit of homework for bits of it.
>
>With Prof. Dancy, Craig was learning as he went along.  With philosophy (at 
>least with my exposure to the philosophy of science and technology), it 
>doesn't lead to the first discussion being a real discussion.  Starting from 
>scratch in an area of philosophy where you
> have to disassemble ingrained patterns of thinking (yeah, I'm not narrowing 
> things that much) requires a hell of a lot more time than what they had last 
> night.
>
>From here it gets really philosophically dorky, at least for a TV list.
>
>It didn't help that - from what I can tell - that the distinction between 
>moral relativism and moral particularism is pretty damn subtle.  Where the 
>former makes claims against the universality of moral principles in the sense 
>of a sliding value scale, the latter argues against the universality of those 
>principles in an explanatory sense - why one does a particular thing or why 
>one considers an action moral.  Put another way moral relativism is an issue 
>of relative application of moral principles, and moral particularism questions 
>the possibility of This is part of why Dancy resisted definitions.  As he 
>mentioned in his example of lending a hand to the guy stealing car stereos, 
>helping someone
> else may be a moral thing to do in one instance and an immoral thing to do in 
> another.  So Dancy and his fellow particularlists resist definitions or moral 
> principles because if they are applied consistently in all cases you run into 
> all sorts of problems.  If they aren't applied consistently, they're kind of 
> useless as principles or definitions.
>
>Mentally, most of us would not pay much mind to the exceptions to the rules or 
>principles we consider to guide our actions.  But when philosophy is geared 
>toward establishing rigorous systems of thinking, those exceptions can vex 
>them mightily.
>
>I don't know if C-Ferg is as serious about the invitation back as he was about 
>the initial invite.  As much as he'd need more time in a single show, I think 
>single segments are perhaps more ratings-friendly (though the Peabody folks 
>will consider themselves prescient).
>
>David
>
>
>
>
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From: Kevin M. <[email protected]>
>
>That said, the philosopher wasn't to my liking, and he didn't need to
>go on for 13 minutes the way he did. Once he said that morality is all
>relative, and then refused to define anything -- well, then the
>>remaining 12 minutes could have been better served by Wavey the
>Crocodile (or a test pattern). Craig made the most of it, but Craig
>had to work very hard to get through the segment.
>-- 
>Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
>
>
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