There will never be any winners in this tragedy, merely varying degrees of loss
On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:37 PM Diner <bwayst...@gmail.com> wrote: > And now there's this, which adds a whole other level of complexity to the > story: the suicide of McGowan's ex-manager Jill Messick, and a statement by > Messick's family that lays a lot of the blame at McGowan's feet. > > > https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jill-messicks-family-issues-blistering-statement-harvey-weinstein-rose-mcgowan-1083173 > > > > On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 5:22:19 AM UTC-5, PGage wrote: > >> Same. She is a trauma victim, and actively dealing with a lot of shit. >> She has been both brave and effective in knocking down some walls, but she >> is not the person I would choose to get into a nuanced debate about all the >> complexities. >> >> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:37 PM Tom Wolper <two...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 8:34 PM, Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> ... after a "meltdown" at a Barnes & Noble booksigning. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://variety.com/2018/scene/vpage/rose-mcgowan-meltdown-barnes-and-noble-book-signing-1202684004/ >>>> >>>> She appeared on Colbert last night after the signing went askew. The >>>> interview derailed almost from the start and there was nothing Colbert >>>> could really do to get it back on track. >>>> >>>> https://www.facebook.com/colbertlateshow/videos/1321067461371335/ >>>> >>>> On the Tweety-thingy, Ms. McGowan stated she's taking time away. >>>> >>>> https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/959504910902595585 >>>> >>>> Wherever you land on the #metoo issue, this woman has faced the sort of >>>> scrutiny normally reserved for presidential candidates. I cannot imagine >>>> the emotional impact of all the pressure, so I am not prepared to cast >>>> judgment on her. Not trying to lump shaved-headed women together, but her >>>> demeanor on Colbert reminded me of Sinead O'Connor's social media posts >>>> last year. Alas, O'Connor (now going by Magda Davitt) was "helped" by Phil >>>> McGraw, so I can only hope that McGowan is able to take the time she needs >>>> to rejuvenate, and if she seeks help or counsel from someone, that it isn't >>>> a Hollywood quack. >>>> >>> >>> I have a lot of sympathy for McGowan. As much as it can feel watered >>> down when an organization gets together and puts out a corporate-speak >>> sounding message, the organization can provide message focus, media >>> training, and emotional support for someone like her. It's unbelievably >>> difficult to become the face of a movement on one's own and have to deal >>> with the denials and power politics from one side and the cries for help >>> and sharing the pain from the other. That will take a psychic toll and the >>> Barnes & Noble incident can become too much to deal with. I saw McGowan's >>> appearance on the Late Show and it was clear she had some chemical >>> enhancement. That is not surprising as the talk shows are know for having >>> an alcohol cart available to guests to loosen them up if necessary. She >>> came off unfocused and defensive. >>> >>> The evening after she did an interview with Ronan Farrow at the 92nd St >>> Y and then started her hiatus. Vox has a long transcript. I don't know if >>> it's the complete conversation or just excerpts. It gives a good sense of >>> what her past year has been like and what led up to the hiatus. >>> >>> >>> https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/2/6/16973736/rose-mcgowan-ronan-farrow-harvey-weinstein >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com. >> >> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> Sent from Gmail Mobile >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
