Hah! Phineas and I agree on something. Maybe there's hope for Republicans and Democrats.
. . . Nah... On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:24 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am not trying to put words in your mouth or pick a fight - just trying > to understand your point. I thought you were saying his show was > intentionally only enjoyable by South Asians and Muslims (and those who for > some reason already were knowledgable about those cultures). THat does not > seem plausible to me. But if all you mean is that he is hoping that South > Asians and Muslims, who have been long ignored by US pop culture, will be > attracted to his show in a special way, along with as many other people as > possible, then - well, yes I’m sure that’s true. > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:14 PM Steve Timko <steveti...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I never said exclusively. That's setting up a strawman to knock down. >> But it seems to be a deliberate effort to target an audience not >> addressed by other media. A south Asian addressing Arab culture seems to be >> a stretch. >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:06 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> You really think his plan is to develop a Netflix show in the US aimed >>> exclusively at Indian, Pakistani and Bengali Muslims? >>> >>> Seems more likely he is trying to do a show that is unapologetically >>> based on his experience. Perhaps he is confident that in the same way that >>> non-white, non-Christian Americans are expected to acquaint themselves with >>> elements of WASP culture to consume many products of US Pop culture, white >>> Christians (at least young ones) will be motivated to do the same. >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:16 AM Steve Timko <steveti...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Chris Rock does not make jokes so obscure you need to Google it to >>>> understand it. Clearly this is a calculated effort on Minaj's part. >>>> >>>> Not sent from an iPhone >>>> On Nov 1, 2018, at 5:43 AM, PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Chris Rock is not really targeting an African-American audience. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 9:42 PM Steve Timko < steveti...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Two episodes of Hasan Minaj’s “Patriot Act” have dropped. Although >>>>>> he’s a fairly recent defector from “The Daily Show,” it most closely >>>>>> resembles John Oliver’s “Last Week Tonight.” But Minaj seems to be >>>>>> targeting south Asians and Muslims with the show. Also, targeting an >>>>>> especially young audience. >>>>>> In the first episode. Minaj spends the whole episode talking about >>>>>> affirmative action. In the second episode, he talks mostly about Saudi >>>>>> Arabia before switching topics, finally closing with a taped bit that has >>>>>> kids dropping F bombs. >>>>>> They attempt a different look with the show. The audience is close to >>>>>> the stage. But in the first episode especially, they sound like a laugh >>>>>> track. In the second episode he calls attention to all the brown faces in >>>>>> the crowd. >>>>>> The other issue is instead of a green screen or a large TV monitor >>>>>> behind him, they build a wall of a monitors, Minaj calls it a wall of >>>>>> iPads. They seem to be working out the kinks. Letterman’s new Netflix >>>>>> shows >>>>>> were plagued with odd camera angles and cuts for the first few episodes. >>>>>> “Patriot Act” caught the same bug. There’s odd profile shots that almost >>>>>> seem to be shooting him from behind. In the Saudia Arabia presentation, >>>>>> the >>>>>> monitor goes dark, Minaj walks to his spot and then the photo of MBS >>>>>> fades >>>>>> in behind Minaj. Somehow it looked too rehearsed and lacked impact. >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: minajmbs.jpg] >>>>>> >>>>>> The director is Richard A. Preuss. IMDB lists some impressive >>>>>> credits. I think he needs to smooth it out. Conan O’Brien had a rough >>>>>> start >>>>>> and it took months for him to figure it out. >>>>>> A bigger problem is that Minaj doesn’t seem to have the charisma or >>>>>> comic stamina or something to carry a whole half hour. Sometimes his >>>>>> jokes >>>>>> seem good but he steps on the punchline. It makes your appreciate a John >>>>>> Oliver, Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert, who can keep up the pace for a >>>>>> full >>>>>> half hour. The latter two benefit from commercial breaks. >>>>>> Minaj is also making references to south Asian and Muslim cultural >>>>>> items. Like some kind of test I guess Indian kids take, and some sort of >>>>>> toiletry tactic he feels is superior to toilet paper alone and to Saudis >>>>>> not owning dogs. He notes the Saudis have invested heavily in Wag.com, >>>>>> the >>>>>> dog-walking web site, and said Saudis don’t own dogs. I did a mental >>>>>> search >>>>>> of the four Arab families I know. Two own dogs. One, in fact, own a dog >>>>>> as >>>>>> a substitute for falconry, a sport they are too poor to pursue. (The dogs >>>>>> point and flush and they shoot). On the other hand, of the south Asian >>>>>> families I know, none own any pets. >>>>>> New episodes drop weekly. Out of the chute Minaj’s show doesn’t seem >>>>>> to be as solid as Michelle Wolf’s, but perhaps targeting a different >>>>>> audience will make it more desirable to Netflix. I will watch one or two >>>>>> more, but I don’t seem to be in the target audience. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. 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