Netflix drops episode in Saudi Arabia critical of government for journalist's murder.
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/01/681469011/netflix-drops-hasan-minhaj-episode-in-saudi-arabia-at-governments-request On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 7:46 PM Steve Timko <steveti...@gmail.com wrote: > Hah! Phineas and I agree on something. Maybe there's hope for Republicans > and Democrats. > > . > . > . > Nah... > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:24 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I am not trying to put words in your mouth or pick a fight - just trying >> to understand your point. I thought you were saying his show was >> intentionally only enjoyable by South Asians and Muslims (and those who for >> some reason already were knowledgable about those cultures). THat does not >> seem plausible to me. But if all you mean is that he is hoping that South >> Asians and Muslims, who have been long ignored by US pop culture, will be >> attracted to his show in a special way, along with as many other people as >> possible, then - well, yes I’m sure that’s true. >> >> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:14 PM Steve Timko <steveti...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I never said exclusively. That's setting up a strawman to knock down. >>> But it seems to be a deliberate effort to target an audience not >>> addressed by other media. A south Asian addressing Arab culture seems to be >>> a stretch. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:06 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> You really think his plan is to develop a Netflix show in the US aimed >>>> exclusively at Indian, Pakistani and Bengali Muslims? >>>> >>>> Seems more likely he is trying to do a show that is unapologetically >>>> based on his experience. Perhaps he is confident that in the same way that >>>> non-white, non-Christian Americans are expected to acquaint themselves with >>>> elements of WASP culture to consume many products of US Pop culture, white >>>> Christians (at least young ones) will be motivated to do the same. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:16 AM Steve Timko <steveti...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Chris Rock does not make jokes so obscure you need to Google it to >>>>> understand it. Clearly this is a calculated effort on Minaj's part. >>>>> >>>>> Not sent from an iPhone >>>>> On Nov 1, 2018, at 5:43 AM, PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris Rock is not really targeting an African-American audience. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 9:42 PM Steve Timko < steveti...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Two episodes of Hasan Minaj’s “Patriot Act” have dropped. Although >>>>>>> he’s a fairly recent defector from “The Daily Show,” it most closely >>>>>>> resembles John Oliver’s “Last Week Tonight.” But Minaj seems to be >>>>>>> targeting south Asians and Muslims with the show. Also, targeting an >>>>>>> especially young audience. >>>>>>> In the first episode. Minaj spends the whole episode talking about >>>>>>> affirmative action. In the second episode, he talks mostly about Saudi >>>>>>> Arabia before switching topics, finally closing with a taped bit that >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> kids dropping F bombs. >>>>>>> They attempt a different look with the show. The audience is close >>>>>>> to the stage. But in the first episode especially, they sound like a >>>>>>> laugh >>>>>>> track. In the second episode he calls attention to all the brown faces >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> the crowd. >>>>>>> The other issue is instead of a green screen or a large TV monitor >>>>>>> behind him, they build a wall of a monitors, Minaj calls it a wall of >>>>>>> iPads. They seem to be working out the kinks. Letterman’s new Netflix >>>>>>> shows >>>>>>> were plagued with odd camera angles and cuts for the first few episodes. >>>>>>> “Patriot Act” caught the same bug. There’s odd profile shots that almost >>>>>>> seem to be shooting him from behind. In the Saudia Arabia presentation, >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> monitor goes dark, Minaj walks to his spot and then the photo of MBS >>>>>>> fades >>>>>>> in behind Minaj. Somehow it looked too rehearsed and lacked impact. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: minajmbs.jpg] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The director is Richard A. Preuss. IMDB lists some impressive >>>>>>> credits. I think he needs to smooth it out. Conan O’Brien had a rough >>>>>>> start >>>>>>> and it took months for him to figure it out. >>>>>>> A bigger problem is that Minaj doesn’t seem to have the charisma or >>>>>>> comic stamina or something to carry a whole half hour. Sometimes his >>>>>>> jokes >>>>>>> seem good but he steps on the punchline. It makes your appreciate a John >>>>>>> Oliver, Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert, who can keep up the pace for a >>>>>>> full >>>>>>> half hour. The latter two benefit from commercial breaks. >>>>>>> Minaj is also making references to south Asian and Muslim cultural >>>>>>> items. Like some kind of test I guess Indian kids take, and some sort of >>>>>>> toiletry tactic he feels is superior to toilet paper alone and to Saudis >>>>>>> not owning dogs. He notes the Saudis have invested heavily in Wag.com, >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> dog-walking web site, and said Saudis don’t own dogs. I did a mental >>>>>>> search >>>>>>> of the four Arab families I know. Two own dogs. One, in fact, own a dog >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> a substitute for falconry, a sport they are too poor to pursue. (The >>>>>>> dogs >>>>>>> point and flush and they shoot). On the other hand, of the south Asian >>>>>>> families I know, none own any pets. >>>>>>> New episodes drop weekly. Out of the chute Minaj’s show doesn’t seem >>>>>>> to be as solid as Michelle Wolf’s, but perhaps targeting a different >>>>>>> audience will make it more desirable to Netflix. I will watch one or two >>>>>>> more, but I don’t seem to be in the target audience. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> Sent from Gmail Mobile >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. 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