He is back and opens the show with a direct broadside against Saudi Arabia.
On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 9:13 PM Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: > Semi related, inasmuch as it pertains to the state of social critics in > Saudi Arabia, is this recent Twitter thread purportedly from someone who > used to work on American Dad, and his encounter with a Saudi comic... now > missing, his wife in a Saudi jail > > https://twitter.com/krudell/status/1080591286959132672?s=21 > > > > On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 9:29 PM Steve Timko <steveti...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Netflix drops episode in Saudi Arabia critical of government for >> journalist's murder. >> >> >> https://www.npr.org/2019/01/01/681469011/netflix-drops-hasan-minhaj-episode-in-saudi-arabia-at-governments-request >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 7:46 PM Steve Timko <steveti...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Hah! Phineas and I agree on something. Maybe there's hope for >>> Republicans and Democrats. >>> >>> . >>> . >>> . >>> Nah... >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:24 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I am not trying to put words in your mouth or pick a fight - just >>>> trying to understand your point. I thought you were saying his show was >>>> intentionally only enjoyable by South Asians and Muslims (and those who for >>>> some reason already were knowledgable about those cultures). THat does not >>>> seem plausible to me. But if all you mean is that he is hoping that South >>>> Asians and Muslims, who have been long ignored by US pop culture, will be >>>> attracted to his show in a special way, along with as many other people as >>>> possible, then - well, yes I’m sure that’s true. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:14 PM Steve Timko <steveti...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I never said exclusively. That's setting up a strawman to knock down. >>>>> But it seems to be a deliberate effort to target an audience not >>>>> addressed by other media. A south Asian addressing Arab culture seems to >>>>> be >>>>> a stretch. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:06 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You really think his plan is to develop a Netflix show in the US >>>>>> aimed exclusively at Indian, Pakistani and Bengali Muslims? >>>>>> >>>>>> Seems more likely he is trying to do a show that is unapologetically >>>>>> based on his experience. Perhaps he is confident that in the same way >>>>>> that >>>>>> non-white, non-Christian Americans are expected to acquaint themselves >>>>>> with >>>>>> elements of WASP culture to consume many products of US Pop culture, >>>>>> white >>>>>> Christians (at least young ones) will be motivated to do the same. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:16 AM Steve Timko <steveti...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris Rock does not make jokes so obscure you need to Google it to >>>>>>> understand it. Clearly this is a calculated effort on Minaj's part. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not sent from an iPhone >>>>>>> On Nov 1, 2018, at 5:43 AM, PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris Rock is not really targeting an African-American audience. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 9:42 PM Steve Timko < steveti...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Two episodes of Hasan Minaj’s “Patriot Act” have dropped. Although >>>>>>>>> he’s a fairly recent defector from “The Daily Show,” it most closely >>>>>>>>> resembles John Oliver’s “Last Week Tonight.” But Minaj seems to be >>>>>>>>> targeting south Asians and Muslims with the show. Also, targeting an >>>>>>>>> especially young audience. >>>>>>>>> In the first episode. Minaj spends the whole episode talking about >>>>>>>>> affirmative action. In the second episode, he talks mostly about Saudi >>>>>>>>> Arabia before switching topics, finally closing with a taped bit that >>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>> kids dropping F bombs. >>>>>>>>> They attempt a different look with the show. The audience is close >>>>>>>>> to the stage. But in the first episode especially, they sound like a >>>>>>>>> laugh >>>>>>>>> track. In the second episode he calls attention to all the brown >>>>>>>>> faces in >>>>>>>>> the crowd. >>>>>>>>> The other issue is instead of a green screen or a large TV monitor >>>>>>>>> behind him, they build a wall of a monitors, Minaj calls it a wall of >>>>>>>>> iPads. They seem to be working out the kinks. Letterman’s new Netflix >>>>>>>>> shows >>>>>>>>> were plagued with odd camera angles and cuts for the first few >>>>>>>>> episodes. >>>>>>>>> “Patriot Act” caught the same bug. There’s odd profile shots that >>>>>>>>> almost >>>>>>>>> seem to be shooting him from behind. In the Saudia Arabia >>>>>>>>> presentation, the >>>>>>>>> monitor goes dark, Minaj walks to his spot and then the photo of MBS >>>>>>>>> fades >>>>>>>>> in behind Minaj. Somehow it looked too rehearsed and lacked impact. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [image: minajmbs.jpg] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The director is Richard A. Preuss. IMDB lists some impressive >>>>>>>>> credits. I think he needs to smooth it out. Conan O’Brien had a rough >>>>>>>>> start >>>>>>>>> and it took months for him to figure it out. >>>>>>>>> A bigger problem is that Minaj doesn’t seem to have the charisma >>>>>>>>> or comic stamina or something to carry a whole half hour. Sometimes >>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>> jokes seem good but he steps on the punchline. It makes your >>>>>>>>> appreciate a >>>>>>>>> John Oliver, Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert, who can keep up the pace >>>>>>>>> for a >>>>>>>>> full half hour. The latter two benefit from commercial breaks. >>>>>>>>> Minaj is also making references to south Asian and Muslim cultural >>>>>>>>> items. Like some kind of test I guess Indian kids take, and some sort >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> toiletry tactic he feels is superior to toilet paper alone and to >>>>>>>>> Saudis >>>>>>>>> not owning dogs. He notes the Saudis have invested heavily in >>>>>>>>> Wag.com, the >>>>>>>>> dog-walking web site, and said Saudis don’t own dogs. I did a mental >>>>>>>>> search >>>>>>>>> of the four Arab families I know. Two own dogs. One, in fact, own a >>>>>>>>> dog as >>>>>>>>> a substitute for falconry, a sport they are too poor to pursue. (The >>>>>>>>> dogs >>>>>>>>> point and flush and they shoot). On the other hand, of the south Asian >>>>>>>>> families I know, none own any pets. >>>>>>>>> New episodes drop weekly. Out of the chute Minaj’s show doesn’t >>>>>>>>> seem to be as solid as Michelle Wolf’s, but perhaps targeting a >>>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>>> audience will make it more desirable to Netflix. I will watch one or >>>>>>>>> two >>>>>>>>> more, but I don’t seem to be in the target audience. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > Kevin M. 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